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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2013, 09:25:39 AM »
I actually got a kids bicycle at this one. Its a late 50s or early 60s Murray with solid rubber wheels and a rear coaster brake that applies a little metal pad to the tire. it is freaking sweet and only needs a chain and one grip.

That was a pretty cool little bike!


I kinda cleaned it up. Its a very well detailed bike, but the reverse to brake set-up seems to be only kinda working. It slips a little bit.

why do my photos end up upside down?
Quit holding your camera upside down ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2013, 11:15:03 AM »

it seems to me to have an excessive amount of end play. 
watch this and see if adjusting the shims around the clutch can have an effect on the end play
Watch what?  I think you forgot to post a link.  Your pictures are upside down.  Are you SURE that was tea you had with you yesterday?  By the way, your bike cleaned up nicely!   ;D   
On the end play, from what I've read so far it looks like you are supposed to have a seal (felt washer) then a fiber washer, then shims to take the end play out of it.  This engine has at least an eighth of and inch of end play, maybe more.  I'll tear it apart and see exactly what is wrong.  I got it cheap enough that I can afford a rebuilt crankcase if necessary.

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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2013, 11:25:30 AM »
By the way, I had been thinking this was NOT a "Hit and Miss" engine . . . in fact, it IS.  But not in the traditional sense of a "Hit and Miss."  The engine speed is goverend by a centrifical device.  On a normal hit and miss, the govenor only lets the valves work if the RPMs drop below a certian level.  On this one, the govenor stops the points from opening if the RPMs exceed a certian level.  Being a two stroke, I guess that means it pumping a raw air/fuel mixture into the exhaust pipe when the ignition cuts out.  That probably explains why they pop and crack so much when they are idleing with no load.   ;)

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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2013, 11:44:12 AM »
Watch what?  I think you forgot to post a link.  Your pictures are upside down.  Are you SURE that was tea you had with you yesterday?  By the way, your bike cleaned up nicely!   ;D   

watch this and see if adjusting the shims around the clutch can have an effect on the end play



you can't see that link?

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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2013, 12:02:27 PM »
watch this and see if adjusting the shims around the clutch can have an effect on the end play



you can't see that link?
Well, yeah, NOW I can!  ;D

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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2013, 04:29:50 PM »
I couldn't take it... so I finally got one!!! I went back today and snagged a 1936 Briggs and Stratton. The deal was hard to beat! Now I'm in the club!

Saw Zen there too. He wasn't happy with them giving him that motor, so he drove back to pay for what he "bought" yesterday.

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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2013, 04:48:18 PM »
By the way, I had been thinking this was NOT a "Hit and Miss" engine . . . in fact, it IS.  But not in the traditional sense of a "Hit and Miss."  The engine speed is goverend by a centrifical device.  On a normal hit and miss, the govenor only lets the valves work if the RPMs drop below a certian level.  On this one, the govenor stops the points from opening if the RPMs exceed a certian level.  Being a two stroke, I guess that means it pumping a raw air/fuel mixture into the exhaust pipe when the ignition cuts out.  That probably explains why they pop and crack so much when they are idleing with no load.   ;)
Of course. But you forgot the large amount of blue smoke they emit when they finally fire. Thats what makes them real popular at Engines shows. Its sort'a sounds like the second day at Gettisburg when you hear about 20 of them at one time. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2013, 05:38:20 PM »
Its sort'a sounds like the second day at Gettisburg when you hear about 20 of them at one time. ;D ;D ;D

I wasn't born then; tell us more

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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2013, 06:46:33 PM »
I couldn't take it... so I finally got one!!! I went back today and snagged a 1936 Briggs and Stratton. The deal was hard to beat! Now I'm in the club!

The two nicest engines were still there when we left this afternoon.  The sale runs through Tuesday at 4:00 PM and the prices get cheaper each day.  I didn't think to write down the brands of these two engines, but they are big ones and look to be ready run and show with just a little cleaning and polishing.  One was priced at $825 and the other was around a grand.  They should be cheaper tomorrow.  If you want to get into the antique engine scene, here's your chance.

Saw Zen there too. He wasn't happy with them giving him that motor, so he drove back to pay for what he "bought" yesterday.

I wasn't paying attention when Joy paid for all her junk, but I did hear her question the lady twice about whether or not she had rang up the engine.  After we left, Joy ask me how much the engine was . . . I told her . . . then how did the total end up $50 bucks less than the cost of the engine?  After going over all of our purchases and the receipt when we got home, it was pretty obvious that we paid the correct price for everything Joy and Franny bought, but they didn't charge us for the engine.  I like the idea of a free engine, but I gott'a sleep at night.   ;)
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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2013, 06:54:55 PM »
I think these are the two that are still there:



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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2013, 07:01:20 PM »
Mines running!!!! ;D

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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2013, 07:16:48 PM »
Mines running!!!! ;D

Show Off!  It'll be a while before mine runs.

I took the plug out of the gas tank . . . lot's of rusty stuff in there.  I tried to move the crankshaft around in the main bushings . . . yep, both sides are shot.  I think I'll opt for the rebuilt crankcase/crankshaft rather than trying to replace the bushings myself.

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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2013, 07:50:04 PM »
I think I'll opt for the rebuilt crankcase/crankshaft rather than trying to replace the bushings myself.

does that mean that there will be one available for sale shortly? or does it get returned as a core?




I also found the training wheels for this bike today too!

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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2013, 08:29:58 PM »
The guy that has them on eBay sells them outright and with free shipping.  It says he has 10 or more available.  So, I guess if I do go that way, I'll have a core to rebuild, sell, hoard or scrap.  Based on a glance I took inside my garage this afternoon, I'll probably hoard it . . . But I'm trying to break old habits, so if someone offered me money for it, I'd probably let it go.

Dang Nick, that engine sounds pretty good!  You should have grabbed up that old go-cart frame that was out in the yard yesterday. 8)

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Re: Finally Got One! Wooo Hooo!!!

« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2013, 08:59:31 PM »
I'm thinking mini-bike

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