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Offline travisyoung

Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2014, 10:50:18 AM »
I can probably do them for a couple I engine tins and a piece o fuel line.  If they are similar the thing and beetle

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2014, 12:02:01 PM »
I believe they are. They seem to be a little bit larger in diameter (I think). I'll get them cleaned up and dig out some tins and fuel line (I think its still in the front seat of Matthew's Jeep!). Which tins do you need again?

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2014, 01:13:42 PM »
The single port ones that cover the jugs that the fan fits into,  rear one for the thing that the you can see in front of the pulley

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #63 on: January 02, 2014, 02:22:36 PM »
I'm sure I can swing that. Is the thing rear tin piece special or the same as a bug?

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #64 on: January 02, 2014, 02:47:16 PM »
Should be same as bug

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #65 on: January 02, 2014, 05:37:52 PM »
Does anyone know where I can get ball joints pressed in/out for reasonable price? Everyone on thesamba says that $200 is a good price if you take them off yourself and $800 is good if you take it to a shop  :o :o :o  Maybe I'm cheap, but that is crazy!

I put ball joints on Homer myself, in the back yard, without a press or any special tools.  Yeah, I know it's hard to believe, but I used to be able to do whatever needed to be done to put Homer back on the road. Here's what I did . . .

Since it was my daily driver at the time I wanted to minimize the downtime, so I got another beam and took all four control arms off of it.  I used a side grinder and ground the cap side of each ball joint down to control arm.  It took a LOOOOOOONG time.  I could have done it quicker if I had a vice, but working with an old cooler as a workbench, and trying to keep both hands on the grinder, it goes slow.  Once the cap side was cut off, I removed the ball/stud and threaded up hack saw blade through the inside of the opened ball joint and sawed away.  That also took a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time.  The trick is to cut through the ball joint housing without cutting into the control arm.  The cut relieves the pressure from the interference fit, and lets you knock out what’s left of them with a small ball peen hammer.

I drove the new ones in with a 3 pound hammer.  I used some old Ford rod caps to make a support underneath the control arm (sitting on my concrete sidewalk) and used a large socket as a driver.  Make sure you start ‘em straight.  They are directional.  If you press them in wrong, they will bind or break when the control arms pivot.

When I got all four of them done, I jacked Homer’s front end off the ground and swapped out the control arms one side at a time.  I adjusted the camber as best I could by sight.  That was several years ago and I still haven’t taken it to the alignment shop.  But for some odd reason, tires seem to wear out fast . . .

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #66 on: January 02, 2014, 05:48:34 PM »
That reminds me of a story David told me when I ask him about pressing ball joint in and out and bus.  He said he did it twice and refused to attempt it a third time.  He said the last set he tried was so tight in the control arm that one of them stalled out the big press he was using (seems like he said it was a 60 electric powered press).  Anyway, when the press stalled, he decided to throw some heat on it to make it turn loose.  When the control arm started glowing red, with all the pressure from the 60 ton press sitting on the joint, he said it exploded out, knocked a chunk of concrete out of the floor and bounced up and took out a set of florescent lights.

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #67 on: January 02, 2014, 07:01:13 PM »
I've dine many on beetles and things,  I was wanting just the arms,  Zens idea of leaving the beam in the bus sounds good unless yours is rusted or you plan on lowering it,  bring them by the shop one day,  I have a ball joint press,  shop press and torches,  haven't meet something I can't press it or out yet

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #68 on: January 02, 2014, 08:04:47 PM »
I've dine many on beetles and things,  I was wanting just the arms,  Zens idea of leaving the beam in the bus sounds good unless yours is rusted or you plan on lowering it,  bring them by the shop one day,  I have a ball joint press,  shop press and torches,  haven't meet something I can't press it or out yet

That's what the Godfather said about the press he used . . . until he put a bus ball joint under it.  If David refused to do it anymore, you know their had to be a reason.   ;)   It's do-able . . . just be real careful if you have it under pressure and then apply heat.  A bus ball joint is pretty heavy.  If it turns loose while it's under a few tons of pressure, it can be deadly.

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« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2014, 08:15:01 PM »
Maybe Trixie could use Homer's front beam! Since it's already got new ball joints, and it doesn't look like Homer will be running any time soon...

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2014, 12:00:00 AM »
I think zen had extra arms like I do. Maybe I can grind these out and clean them up and get Travis to press new ones in. I'll see what I can do...

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #71 on: January 03, 2014, 06:39:16 AM »
Don't worry about getting the old ones out,  I did them without a press years ago put it involved air tools so it wasn't terrible.  But have access to everything at the shop

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #72 on: January 03, 2014, 09:27:27 AM »
Alright. When would be good to try to get them over to you? My work schedule is not as lax as it used to be. Do you work the occasional Saturday?

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #73 on: January 03, 2014, 09:53:13 AM »
I'm working this Saturday till 12

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Re: Trixie, a 1970 bus

« Reply #74 on: January 03, 2014, 11:47:22 AM »
Cool! I'll try to get them cleaned up tonight (very greasy) and ready for tomorrow. Anytime good?

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