Herb, What do mean you can`t drive it ? I had a friend that had a bus that had about 3 feet between the tires, only enough room for the front seats. He use to go crashing through the woods with us when we had Buggys. He would dump the thottle and dang front end would jump off the ground and over rocks that we couldn`t even think about. He had to be careful not to flip over backwards when he pulled this stunt. He drove this thing to work at Southland VW everyday for a long time until the law grounded him for doing "wheelys" down Brainerd Rd everytime he started off at a traffic light. It was somthing to witness. Its name was "The Frog" . A `62 I think. If you looked at from the front or rear,you couldn`t tell it had been cut. :lol: