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Offline Bugnut

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Bug buying mania!!!!

« on: September 02, 2008, 01:56:21 AM »
I want a bug....I hear alot of people saying that all of a sudden around town. I guess the VW plant has started stiring up old emotions and memories and the excitment cant help but start new ones.
There's a ton of aircooled vw's in town popping outta the woodwork so to speak. So for those of us that do drive them everyday I bet ya have at least 1 person asking to buy it every time you stop some where.

 I love the lil critters more than I should but it's just a sad reality that everyone probably shouldn't own one. Fact is old vw's are exspensive. Gone are the days of $100 bugs and cheap German parts laying around everywhere. For the members of this site this knowledge is really not an eye opener at all more like "no kidding wise guy!" The blatent truth is these are old cars that need a lil or more than a lil TLC.

But heres the point of the ranting: If you dont know how to fix it ask someone. If you have to get it fixed by someone be thankfull and pay what the repairis worth.  If you are not a do it yourselfer and you find someone to fix your car dont mess with it afterwards! If you couldn't fix it before then chances are you wont fix it now. :lol: I guess it boils down to what a wise ole fella once told me"Train your customersbefore they train you!"

Overall it's pretty simple, if you cant fix it and dont want to spend the cash to have it fixed there's an easy solutin: Dont buy it to start with.For every thousand dollars spent buying a bug you can bet on a few thousand more sooner or later,it's just the nature of the beast and busses are just that much more exspensive. I love split busses but dang they are exspensive to keep around.

 Chattanooga has been very fortunate to have the likes ofDavid Johnston,Jim Lockhart,and Rick Swafford as well as others like them. Angry wrench throwing gents who were kind enough not to kill the poor young fella and even teach them a thing or two.(poor Rick) Problem is these days alot of younger guys would rather have mom and dad flip the bill and could care less how it works. Thats all fine and dandy but what happens 20 years down the road?

Well I expect as usual anytime I write more than 2 lines somebody will take this the wrong way.I'm just a bit course and sometimes to direct I guess .I had a few generals tell me that I'm very honest but need to learn to use "tact" sometimes when speaking. Whatever that means. :roll:

 My point is that while we all may love VW's,  maybe some folks should stop and think about it before jumping on the "wagen" and buying one. Afterall,do we really want to see the poor lil critter being treated like that. :lol: I have talked to several potential first time bug buyers and a few of them decided that the newer vw made more sense for them.They didn't really take into account the amount of money they would have to spend to make a $1000 bug really reliable by todays standards.They found that after doing the math they would rather spend 4 or 5k on a decent watercooler. To each his own. Not that I dont like watercoolers,I like seeing a reall nice euro tuner and I hear them cheap lil Golfs have some sort of new fangled conditioned air in them. :shock: I'll have to check into that.

Well folksthis has been another latenight rant brought to you by 67bugnut. Stay tuned campers I'm sure I'll have another mindless rant in the future.
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Offline Ret.Bugtech

Bug buying mania!!!!

« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2008, 09:01:42 AM »
Dang Scott !     Did you find a deal on wine coolers ?    :lol:
        I will add this.  Are people wanting Bugs/vans for a everyday drivers or do they want a Bug/van to restore/play with ?  
        If you want to drive the Varments for your everyday commute be prepared to "pay the piper" a large sum of $$$$ right off the bat to get it up and running and safe. Folks will have to remember that a lot of these cars are pushing a half century on the job or sitting in a pasture somewhere.
         If you want a Bug/van project just for restoration sake,  money becomes less of an issue as you can move along as fast or slow as you want to.
         If you start driving your half restored "Critter" everyday, the chances are that it will never get finished.
          If you are a complete "Newby" with two left hands and mech. challenged and you still want a Bug/Van, I would suggest that you "get off your hip" and buy one that is already restored with a history. Sure it can get costly but you will be able drive it instead of falling all over it the garage for a long time trying to figure what in the world is this  "dololly, thing-a-ma-jig, funny-looking watcha-m-call it" and where does it go and what does it do and can I buy a new one if this one is no good? How can I tell ? :lol:  :lol:

Offline Bugnut

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2008, 10:10:05 AM »
yep what you said and no wine coolers musta been that vitamin water I drank. :lol:  :lol:

Offline virgo062

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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2008, 10:19:23 AM »
I agree :lol: And if you are mech.chanllenged make sure you find the "right" person to work on it. I learned a very expensive lesson about VW's motors and whatever it cost me to have it rebuilt was well worth it and my on fault for not doing it right the first time so I chalked it up as my 1st lesson in Volkswagens. I don't know if FeeBee will be my daily driver but what I do know is that she has peeked ny interest. Maybe I should have sold her years ago but I will never know untilI get her up and going and start driving her. I did drive her to work Saturday and two people asked if she was for sale.....Sorry David but I said no :lol:

Offline Roadkill

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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2008, 01:01:25 PM »
I am hearing what you are preaching David. I have spent more money than the wife has wanted me to spend on Roadkill but she has been turned to the dark side like the rest of us when it comes to volkswagons. She wants to find a bus. As for the people asking if mine was for sale i have had a number of people tell me that they love the little critter and are wanting to buy one. However i did the other day ( last friday ) have 3 young cheerleader type girls yell at me from the school bus over here in Ooltewah while i was getting gas that they loved the bug and wanted to buy it. I just yelled back " thanks, you better have a lot of money " . I knew their young minds did not understand the undertaking they would be getting into. Now all need to get for mine is a house with a garage so i can start taking the body apart for the cosmetic stuff Paint and body work. Or i can save the price of the house and do it one fender or door etc in the parking area i have now.

Offline swagginjello

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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2008, 01:38:23 PM »
if im not drop just as much on my van a month as i am on my new bug thats financed somethings just not right.... or its sitting waiting for me to get the money.  :oops:

Offline Bugnut

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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2008, 01:44:23 PM »
Roadkill if you buy a bus I will have to harm you. Before you reach for a sword or one of them famcy Klingon weapons you have displayed throught your home remeber all men were not created equal rather Sam Colt made them equals. :lol:  Seriousy if the price of bugparts and keeping a bug is killing you a bus will surley be your death. If you must sell Roadkill to some kid for a hefty sum and buy an earlier bug thats already in great shape.

Offline Roadkill

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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2008, 02:28:38 PM »
trust me when i say that i will not be buying a van any thime in the future. I enjoy my bug too much. If i do buy a van it will one like the Mystery Machine from Scooby Do and painted as such........ :lol:  Besides my 5 year old daughter wants the bug when she starts to drive so i figure it will be almost 50 years old by then so it should be with me for a long time....

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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2008, 02:35:32 PM »
Good to hear. Theres a few green westy machines around town they would be great mystery machines.

Offline Zen

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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2008, 09:56:04 PM »
"Good" buses can be expensive . . . and the bad ones will break the bank.  :shock:   But if you want a bus, want a daily driver, want to come out cheaper than buying the average decent used car, there is a formula that works . . . sort of.  Bay window buses are plentiful, at least compaired to split windows.  The 72 and later buses have type 4 engines that are going to be expensive up front, or expensive somewhere down the road.  A little known fact is that bay window buses are still rolling off the assembly line in Brazil and up until about a year or so ago they were powered by a type 1 1600 dual port engine.  My point is, you can't have your cake and eat it too, but you can have your bay window bus and not have to deal with the type 4 engine.

Find an old bus that is structually sound . . . ignore the rust in the outer rockers, the lower door skin and the dog legs, that stuff doesn't hurt anything but the looks.  Get a new windshield seal (and you probably a windshield . . . if you don't to start with, you probably will before this is over).  Take out the windshield, clean up all the rust, treat it, prime it, paint it, and put the windshield back in.  Rebuild the front suspension.  A good deal of work, but not really that much money unless your steering gear is bad.  Clean and repack the CV joints and install new boots.  Go through the brakes.  Now all you need to do is find a good used type 1 (bug) engine and install it where the expensive type 4 engine used to live.  OK, maybe that's a little oversimplified, but hey, even Justin was able to do it!  When your done, it'll take you anywhere you want to go.  Most of the time it'll get you home too! :D  After a while you get used to not having all that extra stuff . . . like enough horsepower to pull it out of it's own tracks and stuff.  Zero to Sixty times are over-rated anyway.  So is a good paint job.  The main thing is that it will go (eventually) and stop (quickly).  The rest if fluff.  It's the fluff that is EXPENSIVE.   :lol:

Homer the Super Bus . . . Living proof that driving a bus doesn't have to cost a fortune.  So what if he's a little on the ugly side . . . so is his owner!  lol

Offline Bugnut

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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2008, 07:37:46 AM »
Or buy Ricks baywindow. It's solid and has a new motor that he built already in it. :D

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