Charlton, I don`t have any personal experences with a Gremlin/Pacer ,but belive this or not, Gremlins and Pacers were a holy terror in SCCA road racing in a production stock class. Nothing could keep up with that big 252 ci six in that little body or the Pacer with the Ford based 289 ci V8(stock from AMC) until the Rabbit showed up. The AMCs had their share of national championships. The Rabbits did very well racing with the AMCs after they found out how to keep the front wheel brgs/cv joints and spindles on the car. We would get a big kick out of watching a Gremlin come tearing by a 240 SX Nissan or a 924 Porsche down the front shute at Road Atlanta. These cars are now getting a little culty and considering the kind of stuff we have to buy now ,maybe the little AMCs were not so bad after. Did I really say that ? Hmmm :-k