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Offline Bugnut

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« on: July 11, 2006, 12:20:48 AM »
I relize most of these little monsters are not insanely fast but I was wonderin if 95-100 is good for a bug. No I'm not try  to kill mine I just had to do it one time to see. I usally drive it 60-65 on the freeway,I figured that was ok. I do drive it up to 70 or so to pass but not for long. Does everything sound about right? Any thing I should know other than stop driving like an idiot? :?
Before the test i checked it out real good and had everything tightened up,it ran pretty good and didn't have any side effects. I'm still wondering about the proper oil pressure at idle and at cruising speed. Any thoughts?

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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2006, 08:31:27 AM »
well, maybe i am crazy, but i cruise all my bugs at 70+mph daily... the mexibeetle is much more under powered than the old bugs... so i usually keep it down to about 70... well really i try to keep them all down to that... but they maintain 70 for about 50 miles a day... i've been known to do 90 when passing (80 in the mexi) never been gutsy enough to do 100... yet...

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2006, 10:09:27 AM »
Hey VWGIRL,   Why is your Mexbug seem underpowered ?  Mex.1600cc engines should cruise about as fast as US spec. 1600.
    Are you sure you have a 1600cc engine ?
  Why don't you post some close-up photos of your engine. Close up of the intake where it connects to the heads,carb.
    This might have a clue as to your oil leak.
  A 1300cc engine will look a lot like a 1600cc single port. ( 50hp v 57 hp)

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2006, 11:00:32 AM »
Quote from: "Ret.Bugtech"
Hey VWGIRL,   Why is your Mexbug seem underpowered ?  Mex.1600cc engines should cruise about as fast as US spec. 1600.
    Are you sure you have a 1600cc engine ?
  Why don't you post some close-up photos of your engine. Close up of the intake where it connects to the heads,carb.
    This might have a clue as to your oil leak.
  A 1300cc engine will look a lot like a 1600cc single port. ( 50hp v 57 hp)


i will get some posted up for you tomorrow... it is a U case... so perhaps that says so... but it definitley a 1600i engine.

I thought that the 1600dps were 57hp and the 1600sps were 60hp?

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2006, 11:10:26 AM »
Scott, Your '67 has a fairly long legged 4th gear. Do you have a tach?  You should be turning about 4000 rpm @ 70mph with stock size tires.
    The old split case tranny ('60 back) you would be turning about 3800 rpm @ 70mph in 4th gear.  FV guys use to love these to use at race tracks that had long straights.
    The fastest stock VW I ever drove was a '65 Type-3 Ghia Euro spec. car. I rebuilt the engine while I was at the VW dealer. I had to rebuild it back to euro. specs. as there was no such thing as a 1600 yet.  This engine had the 69mm crank (same as the later 1600) but had 82.97 1500cc dome pistons that brought the compression up to 8.5 to 1.
The heads were single port  and the engine had 2 single port Solex carbs. They called these engines Variant S.  We dove off of Lee Hyway on to 153 and stuck it to it . By the time we got to the Jersey Pike exit(about a mile ?) we were at about 112 to 115 mph. flat out. That little Varment handle like a dream. We had no clue to what the RPMS were. The engine had about 15min. on it when we pulled that stunt. No telling what it would do when it was broken in good. :roll:

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2006, 11:52:13 AM »
Hey Girl,   FYI  U.S.A.
      Type-2    '63 -'67   1500cc   53hp( 1500cc was a opt) single port
         "          '68-'70    1600cc   57hp single port
         "          '71 only   1600cc   60hp (duel port)
         "           72-80(?) 1700cc -- 2000cc

      Type-1    "61-65     1200cc----40hp single port
         "           66 (only) 1300cc----50hp     "
         "           67-69     1500cc ----53hp     "
         "           70 (0nly) 1600cc----57hp( only 1600cc single port)
         "           '71-74     1600cc----60hp (duel port w/dog house cooler)
         "           '75-80     1600cc----46hp      "         Fuel injected engines
    had horsepower rated NET not SAE. This is the reason the hp figure is lower. These engine also had smaller valves ( same as 40 hp) but they seem to perform as well as the larger valve engine when in good shape.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2006, 12:47:25 PM »
Thanks David,Your on to somethin,I need a tach. One more toy for the cockpit.

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2006, 06:25:12 PM »
I'm not an expert on driving fast, but one thing you need to look into when you start getting up toward 100 is aerodynamics.  Stand back and look at the profile of your bug.  Kind'a airplane-wing shaped isn't it?  I've heard that swing-axle cars like to lift up in the rear at high speed.  This would cause the wheels to tuck.  If you needed to make a turn, you might be in trouble.  You may need a "whale tail" or some type of wing to keep your car level at these high speeds.

Personally, I'd want a good roll cage, a racing seat and harness installed before I attempted to break 90.  But that's just me . . . I'd worry about myself more than the car.  I mean, I'll push an engine till it spit parts through the case . . . but I can always piece together another engine IF I make it through the ordeal in one piece.   :wink:

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2006, 09:39:55 PM »
I dont think it's something I'm gonna do again anytime soon. I was just curious. I'll save the speed for the tracks where it belongs. Maybe another project. aero dynamic bugs? :lol:

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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2006, 09:49:10 PM »
By all means, if you are a thrill-seeker, crank up the speed...There's a fine line between exciting and messing your pants, though.  I'd suggest a set of disc brakes to go with the 70+ mph performance package.  The guy pulling out in fromnt of you didn't think a Bug would go that fast.

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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2006, 12:18:38 AM »
It was on the freeway at about 3 am. And even the state Trooper either didn't care or was asleep. I wouldn't even think of hallin butt on a road where somebody could pull out. I drive like Granny up and down crowded roads I try to go slow so people will just pass me. :lol:  But it would be fun to get it built up to do some proper burnouts. :twisted:

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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2006, 10:03:38 AM »
Come on Scott, Standing still and burning the tires off ?   Sounds like the
 Ricer is coming out of you. While you were smoking up the area,that old 36hp bug just blew your doors off.
  I like "Stop light Gran Prix" myselve. That is when I had something that I could do it with and didn't know that the local Cossacks frowned on such antics.
 You being a recovering Ricer,  Whats with this Drifting thing ? Its like a auto-cross,but you have to run through the whole thing side-ways , engine turning 8 zillion rpms while you set the tires on fire. Then on top of that,your fellow drivers jump up and down ,clap their hands,hoot 'n'holler when your " $10,000 50 valve 9 1/2 cam Saki-Sucker Engine dissesembles itselve out there amons't the orange cones. I watched this happen on some show called Tuner TV a couple of weeks ago.
     Sort of like NASCAR : What happened out there Hung Pu ?  
              Ah-so ! The Greasey Lube, Tidy Bowl, Sushi Daewoo was running real good and we were biding our time back here in 35th before coming to the front. I think someone put a Buffalo Chip in the computer instead of the normal Cow chip and it  took a dump on us. We will get 'um next week soon as I can get the old lady back home from her trip to 'Vegas with her "Cousin"

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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2006, 10:58:32 AM »
That's some funny stuff right there. I think some old feller told me stories about lighten up the tires on a 67 fur fun. Must have been some nut.Sounded fun. Heck I'd just like to feel em spin one time without it raining. As for drifting It's Japan they got issues. Who can slide the most rev the most ,peee the most,Sweat the most.Its what happens when you nuke folks they just aint right after that.

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2006, 05:18:42 PM »
Dang Scott. You might have hit on something there about the Japs.
    When their "Wally World" super center is almost as big as the whole country, I can see how this "Drifting" thing got started. I can see it now, Sliding around a pylon, smoking through Women Thingys dept, burning up the toy section, crushing all the little tiny vws toys.
     One thing I'll say, Nuking them sure did whip them in line.
     Hey ! Would this work on North Korea ? That piece of land would make a great parking lot for the South Korean "Wally World". :lol:

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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2006, 06:05:31 PM »
Might work to get rid of those pesky mountains but then theres big brother China. If we nuke them at least all the junk VW parts will be gone. :twisted:

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