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Emissons testing in Hamlton County - some addt'l info needed

« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2005, 08:14:14 AM »
Zen, You are right about Dade county Ga. only they clamed to be a indenpendant state. Somehow they failed to rejoin the U.S. after the War of Northern Agression. Im not sure when this oversight (Ha) was corrected. I might be wrong here , but I think it was in the late 40s or 50s. I  worked with a Guy who said he lived in the State Of Dade(Trenton). Maybe some historian could shed some light on this. :?:

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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2005, 08:38:31 AM »
I have seen signs and references here to the "State of Dade" since I have lived here. Seems like I heard it was as recently as the 1980's when they "corrected" the problem.

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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2005, 06:13:37 PM »
In 1992 and 1993 I ran in the "State of Dade" 5 mile run . . . If I'm not mistaken I think my T-shirts from the run said 7th and 8th "Annual State of Dade Run."  It was part of the annual "State of Dade Festival" so they would have started back in the mid-80's.  I'm pretty sure, however, that the Independant State of Dade rejoined the State of Georgia and the United States of America at the begining of one of the World Wars . . . but I don't think anyone really knew the place existed until they built the interstate.

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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2005, 10:21:25 PM »
Some of us still aren't sure Dade exists :?:  :!:

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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2005, 11:21:28 PM »
Did a little research and from what I've found, here's the scoop on the "State of Dade:"

The "State of Dade" was always considered Dade County by the State of Georgia, but the only roads to Dade were from Alabama and Tennessee.  In the late 1850s a politician in Dade County "threatened" to have the county succeed from Georgia if Georgia didn't succeed from the Union.  That's where the term "State of Dade" began . . . but it never did officially succeed from Georgia.  Since there was no direct access to any other part of the State, in all the political and social turmoil after the end of the war, Dade was pretty much forgotten by Georgia and the rest of the country as well.

So even though it was "officially" a part of Georgia and the United States (according to Georgia and the United States), Dade did, in reality consider its self to be an independent state.  In 1939 Georgia purchased the land on the eastern edge of Dade County that became Cloudland Canyon State Park.  That's when "officially" and "reality" met.  After re-discovering the "State of Dade," Georgia built a road (GA Hwy. 143, later changed to Hwy. 136) across Lookout Mountain.  For the first time in it's history, Dade was "connected" to Georgia.

In 1945, 80 years after the end of the war, Dade passed a resolution officially rejoining the Union.

So, long story short:  "Officially" there was never a "State of Dade."  In “reality,” before the 1940s, "officially" didn't mean anything.  If you lived in Dade, you lived in an independent state.


 :-k  . . . and what this has to do with emmission testing in Hamliton County I'm not real sure . . . I guess I need to go back and read this thread from the start!   :lol:

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Emissons testing in Hamlton County - some addt'l info needed

« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2005, 10:17:41 AM »
Zen, Thanks for CLEARING THE AIR on the origins of "The State Of Dade" .
Maybe this has something to do with emissions.   :lol:  :lol:

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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2005, 09:51:19 AM »
I heard a rumor that 2001 and PRIOR diesels were exempt??? is that correct or just some of the guys at Southeast Diesel being hopeful for our old trucks and what not??

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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2005, 02:47:02 PM »
Yes, diesels also have to be tested unless they have a GVWR of 10,500 pounds or better (that's a big truck).  

I just got the camper renewed as an Antique.  It really wasn't a problem-just bring your renewal letter, sign a paper stating you're aware of the usage limitations, and pay the $27.50 and you're in the club!

Still don't know about the Beetle...

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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2005, 08:46:19 AM »
Im I correct that autos 25 years and older are considered antiques (1980-back) in Tn. ?
 Anthony, What is the usage limit and is there a squad of SVU Police
(special vehicle unit) riding around trying to catch people in this heinous crime of "To many miles" (my apology to Law & Order) ? :lol:

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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2005, 05:46:50 PM »
Godfather, there are restrictionsas to mileage and where you drive. You are supposed to only drive to and from parades, club functions and club meetings. BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT  After 25 years of doing what I did, :roll:  I can honestly say I never saw or even heard of anyone pulling anyone over who was running antique tags. I would probably avoid speed traps like the one here in my area and another two counties east of here because they probably would stop you but if you were going thru either of those areas you would be going to a club function. :D

You don't have to appologize to "real Law and Order" cause they have better things to do than worry about someone who might go a few miles over their limit on their antique tag. :lol:  :lol:

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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2005, 09:59:42 PM »
If it makes you feel any better, in the UK any car older than 3 years gets tested yearly for emissions, as well as general road worthiness (even a blown bulb will fail the test!).

Plus there's a yearly tax on owning a car - older cars are taxed on engine size, newer ones on emission ratings, up to 170 UKP per year.

Then there's the fuel costs... oohh the fuel costs... but I won't go into that!

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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2005, 08:04:19 AM »
Any vehicle 1980 or older can get antique tags.  Oddly, they specify "original" spec, not hot rods, although they didn't ask me any questions about the originality of any of the cars I had done the other day (the camper, Ghia, and Panel)
The other nice thing: It's permanent.  You don't have to pay to get it renewed every year!

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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2005, 04:54:25 PM »
I went to the test place this week to see what would happen. First, the guy looked for a place to plug up to the computer that doesn't exist (I played dumb). Then he tried to find an adapter to test the gas cap (nope). Finally he probed the tail pipe-it blew a zero CO and a 5.81 CO2 (he never said if that was good or not). Finally he gave me back my $10 and a sheet with a phone number.
I called the guy in charge of Hamilton County Emissions, who called it a "special case" and said he would call Nashville and find out what we can do. He also mentioned his '81 Westy and we talked Fuel Injection for a few minutes.
We may just have a friend at the top! :D

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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2005, 01:53:26 PM »
Zen, does that pan of yours have a title or paperwork? :(

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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2005, 05:39:23 PM »
Nope.   :(   After thinking 'bout it, I don't even think I can register it in GA.  The body was moved to a 75 chassis, and I'll bet money it's still registered under this chassis VIN.  I did know who owned the car up until about a year ago.  I've got no idea where it is now.  If I could get it registered in GA, I think you would be able to get TN to issue you a title . . . but if there is already a car registered with this VIN it could create some real problems.

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