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Offline sixseven

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Does anyone have a bentley manual for 58-60 type1?

« on: December 26, 2006, 05:37:02 PM »
I would love to have a copy of the wiring schematic for my car, 1960 standard type1. I've looked all over the web to no avail. (thesamba)etc.. If so it would be greatly appreciated, Thanks guys and gals

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Does anyone have a bentley manual for 58-60 type1?

« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2006, 09:39:01 PM »
You don't need no manuel.  :lol:  I'll add it to my list of things to keep an eye out for.

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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2006, 09:33:02 AM »
I don't have a manual, but I can point you to a copy of the wiring diagram.  The wiring diagrams for most vintage VWs are posted at http://www.type2.com . . . look in the library under "Electrical - Primary."  I just checked and they have the diagrams you are looking for.

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Does anyone have a bentley manual for 58-60 type1?

« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2006, 05:10:01 PM »
Thanks ZEN..  That will work.  Finally I'll have some parking lights a dome light and a horn.        WOOHOO           By the look of those diagrams ,My 60 must be a early 60. My wiring looks more like the 59.

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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2006, 05:05:05 PM »
Some years have diagrams for USA and Non-USA.  Look at all of them.  Just because your car is in the USA today, that doesn't mean it was made for and sold in the US market when new.  If it was originally titled somewhere else, the "model year" and the year on the title may not really match.

Even better than the diagram, somewhere out in cyberspace is an excellent web page that explains the horn circuit and the year to year changes.  I think it's on John Henry's "Bug Shop" site ??? . . . and it's called something like Horn Wiring Hell.  If I can find it I'll post a link.  If anyone else knows what I'm talking about, please post the link!  Not only can you get your horn working, but you'll understand HOW it works.

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Does anyone have a bentley manual for 58-60 type1?

« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2006, 08:54:55 AM »
Here is a fast way to determine if the horn is bad or the wiring is the problem.  If your wiring appears orig. , take a test light and with the Ing, switch on, test for power at both terminals on the horn. If you only have power on 1 terminal , you can bet on a bad horn. These horns are suppose to have power out of both horn term. with the switch on. The horn works when you ground  the ground wire with the horn button. If you have power out of both term. and can determind which wire is ground after all these years, you can slip another wire on the horn and ground it to see if the horn works at all. If the horn "grunts" or tries to honk , still could be a bad horn but does tell you that the problem could be at the rubber disc at the steering sector ( a little jumper wire) or at the bottom of the steering column (over the master cly) on some models, contacts behind the steering wheel and if you have a really old or euro car ,there is a little tube on the steering column about where your right knee is that has brush holder that can cause a problem.
    If you have no power at the horn at all, chase the 1 and only wire straight back to the fuse panel.
    God only knows what has been done with the wiring after all these years ,so good luck. :lol:

Offline VWGirl

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Does anyone have a bentley manual for 58-60 type1?

« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2006, 10:24:26 AM »
I think I have a bentley with the colored diagram for that year... when you find the colored diagrams you gotta buy em! even if you have never owned a vehicle that is covered in it  :lol:

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Does anyone have a bentley manual for 58-60 type1?

« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2006, 11:55:05 PM »
67 I have two books.They are just about gone as far as condition.One is Called owners manual for 60-2004 all vw's. The phone# is 888-432-3548The other one is well 70-79 beetle,super beetle and Karmann Ghia.It's a bently book.Can't find any phone #'s but there are someones phone #'s in the back.One say's Ed Hart #804-447-8245 the other one is JR Corcey Shop 404-358-4464.Don't know if they still work but what the heck.Give them a try.My books are falling apart.I will look for what you want when I get time if you tell me.

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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2007, 07:04:17 AM »
Here's the link to site I mentioned earlier:  http://www.thebugshop.org/gotech.htm . . . scroll down to the Electrical section and read "Horn Wiring Hell - How to survive it."

Quote from: "Ret.Bugtech"
   God only knows what has been done with the wiring after all these years ,so good luck. :lol:


 :lol:  Not only WHAT has been done to the wiring, by WHY?

Bugtech, that '63 you got from me had a good set-up when I got it.  There was a square push button switch installed in the ash tray when I got it . . . after I put a battery in it and got all the stuff that was popping fuses unhooked, I started trying to sort it all out.  I probably pulled 5 pounds of wire out of it that shouldn't have been there and started patching the original wiring harnes back together.  Turned out the push button on the ash tray was the horn button.  It was spliced into the original wiring, so it was not a big deal to remove it and hook the horn back up like it should have been.  The only problem with the original circuit was the horn blew all the time . . . because it had the wrong screws in the spring loaded ring behind the horn button.  The hardest part about fixing it right was I had to replace the ash tray because they had drilled a hole in it for the switch.

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Does anyone have a bentley manual for 58-60 type1?

« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2007, 11:34:20 AM »
Zen, Like you said . The new "buzz " word.   WHY ?   I will never figure that out.  
    My Allison had 2 complete wiring harness's . One was the original harness running through a conduit as it was suppose to, under the outer lip of the body and a 2nd harness made up of every size and color wire know to man laying on the floor of the pan. There had to be at least 25 -30 wires running to the rear of the buggy all connected to something. 2 voltage reg. 1 connected and the 2nd with only #30 red wire. I have photos of that mess. The only things that worked was the starter side of the switch and something you wish you had. The fuel gauge. WOW !!
   It looked like a mixture of 63-64 harness and 70-71 harness. I think I will try to re-wire to keep close to a 63-64 harness just to keep it simple. What do you think ?  By the way:
                 HAPPY NEW YEAR :occasion5:

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