Broken guitar blues.

Bugnut · « **on:** November 22, 2005, 08:38:43 PM »

For the 1st time ever this is non beetle related. I took a 1996 gibson Les Paul
to a local shop to get some replating done to keep it minty. I waited 2 weeks and kept getting b.s. reasons why it wasn't done. I went in and saw my guitar sitting upright in the case stacked with about a dozen others. This is a no no for gibson guitars so I took it from them and found the parts were never even sent off. I got home and noticed about a half dozen marks on the finish and the neck is suffered a nasty headstock break. The owner was being shady and said that he needed some time before he could say what he's willing to do. The model is rare,it's an ebony studio with ebony fretboard. It was givin to me by an Army buddy who is no longer with us. He was KIA in Febuary.I feel Horrible this guy claimed to be an authorized gibson repair man and isn't . I filed a police report for property damage. And have several estimates ranging from $900=$1800 to fix it. I could get another for around the same price but it's not the same. I hoped that you guys might know what could be done or what I should do. I'm thinking small claims court for $1500 claim.
Any ideas? I figured a few of you might play guitars and may know a alot more than me about this sort of thing. I dont know tie die,vw's seemed reasonable to throw in a guitar or 2.
P.S. THANKS ALOT: BILL HARDINS MUSIC BRAINERD ROAD.
:-x

Ret.Bugtech · « **Reply #1 on:** November 22, 2005, 10:42:40 PM »

I have heard the same. Go see Chris at "Pickers Exchange" up in Brainerd. He may be able to give you some advice. He also does repairs . I would have somebody A$* over this. I have a 45 year old Martin D-18 and a 15 year old D-35 Martin. If anything happened to them like with your Gibson, Somebody would die. Keep me posted.

Bugnut · « **Reply #2 on:** November 23, 2005, 01:54:17 PM »

David it amazes me how much weird stuff we have in common. :lol:
I was refered to Mark Piper a luthuir in Franklin,TN. I got the referal from Mike Lowerey at L&M Music. I'm familar with Chris as well I bought a Fender 1/2 Stack from him at Pickers. I have a nice Gibson Black Dove that you should see some time. I only recently started playing again so I'm not too good. I'm sure like my step dad you would claim the same. But the old fella plays pretty darn good. I've got stuff from all over town and I'm slowly scrachin off the folks I don't want to do business with. So far I've got this problem with them and Joe chambers sold me a lemon Fender and tried to make money off it when I tried to return it. What ever happened to honest folks just doing bussiness?On a side bar my step dad just sold a 1951 J-50 Gibson to Gibson Historic best sounding guitar I've ever heard.

« **Reply #3 on:** November 23, 2005, 02:15:40 PM »

I think I can help. I feel your pain. My brother has a 1978 Les Paul Custom, Natural finish, with Gold plated tuning keys and pick-ups, and all the trim. a very VERY nice guitar. about 3-4 years ago, it was in a flood, and recieved some bad water damage. I'm talkin, this thing was junk. The head stock was coming apart, de-laminating, the laquer finish was ruined, peeling etc.. the guys name is Robert Rigaud "Bob".
String Works in Greensboro NC. he is an authorized Gibson repair shop.
I know thats a long drive.. He is worth every mile. you can find him on the net.. He saved the wood on the headstock, re-glued the layers back together, refinished the laquer and put all new gold back on, and this guitar looks Brand New. and plays better than it did in 1978. the bill on this one was around $600. this guy is the King. I'm serious. Bob builds guitars from scratch that sell for Big Bucks. My brother drove to his house to deliver and pick-up this one, and once he saw what this fella does in his shop... he felt good about leaving it in his hands. one more thing.. if you need any referances, you can call John Fogerty, or Eric Clapton.

Bugnut · « **Reply #4 on:** November 23, 2005, 08:51:18 PM »

When did that happen? $600 is way cheap.If he's still in that price range I'm in. The fellows I have references to so far are probably as good but way high for the price. I own property in NC and have to go check on it pretty soon. Please get me that fellows number I'd like to tlak to him.
Thanks a ton.

Ret.Bugtech · « **Reply #5 on:** November 24, 2005, 06:41:43 AM »

You also have " Gruen Vintage" in Nashville. Fogerty and Clapton are not to bad of a reference. :lol: Its a heck of a thing when you have to go through this kind of horror to find someone who can do the job right or at all. My long gone friend Mike Longworth use to take care of my Martins for me . Mike ended up working for Martin for 30 years as a R&D, P.R. and the company historian. He wrote the book on the history of Martin.
My first big box was a J-50 Gibson and it was a great guitar, but it didn't have just the right sound for Bluegrass. It lacked what we use to call the "Martin Ring" You can hear that" Ring" when Clapton un-plugs and plays his old 000-45 Martin.

Bugnut · « **Reply #6 on:** November 24, 2005, 03:40:08 PM »

yep ,I'm familiar with Gruen too. I've been to his place in Nashville.He makes trips here to suck up all the vintage guitars about every 6 months.
I think I'll stay away from him as well. The last guy I spoke with is a consultanr for warrior guitars over behind sound post. He worked in the Gibson custom/historic shop and does real good work. Just a little pricey but not all that bad.Chris at pickers is probably my next stop for advice,he worked for Gibson as well.There's also a guy out in Soddy that does good work he fixed my buddies 56 Les Paul,it was in 3 pieces and you can't tell. The trick is gonna be getting the destroyer to pony up. I think I'll have to take him to court.

« **Reply #7 on:** November 24, 2005, 04:09:36 PM »

I found Bob's website.. http://www.rgmusic.com/ I would at least e-mail him and show him a couple pics. maybe he could tell you if there is anybody in TN that he would recomend.?? that was about 3 years ago when he fixed Adams Les Paul. you cant tell it was ever hurt. good luck.

Smelly_Cat · « **Reply #8 on:** November 24, 2005, 05:05:20 PM »

Wow, we have pickers here! Cool. I hate to hear you broke your neck. Here is my broken neck story. I got my 71 les paul at a music store for 70- bucks in 82 or 83. Heck the hard case was worth 70 bucks. Any way, it had fallen off the holder at the music store and the neck broke. Note (I did not break the Guitar to get a good deal) I got some super epoxy off my Dads work bench and clamped it back together. I have played and mistreated this guitar for over 25 years. SC

Bugnut · « **Reply #9 on:** November 24, 2005, 10:11:40 PM »

Thanks for the tips,I'll definetly check it out. Any tips on how to make this jerk pay up. I have to talk to him one more time just to say I tried and give him a chance to come clean. I hate to do it ,I just want to strangle this turd and his little geek assistant. I'm finding it very hard not to get myself in trouble over it. Maybe I'll just let the boys at Bragg know the prick broke it. Nothin like 30 or 40 pissed off paratroopers to make your life fun. Hey smelly cat let me know if you find another for that price. :lol:

vwherb · « **Reply #10 on:** November 25, 2005, 08:14:39 AM »

If and when you do approach this "person" please be sure and conceal a small recording device in your pocket or somewhere on your person and record the conversation you have with him. Try to keep from getting totally pissed while you're talking to him. This won't help your case at all. Calmness on your part will. This will be the same as a picture being worth a thousand words. After talking to him and he incriminates himself, leave the tape running and show him the recorder then thank him and advise him you will see him in court.

Don't let someone tell you you have to advise him you are recording the conversation either. That is not true. Believe me, I know.

Anthony · « **Reply #11 on:** November 25, 2005, 11:02:01 AM »

I don't deal in guitars, just horns and percussion, but I tell my kids to stay the hell away from Hardin's. Their rental horns are usually junk. Sorry that happened to you. Talk to a lawyer and take him to court!

Bugnut · « **Reply #12 on:** November 25, 2005, 11:28:15 AM »

I'm thinking along those same lines. I plan on going in to talk and snap a few pictures of the work area that in and of itself should do it. I've also got a rep from the Gibson home office that would like to speak to him about representing himself as an authorized repair center.

Ret.Bugtech · « **Reply #13 on:** November 25, 2005, 05:51:50 PM »

How 'bout that ! "Pickers" crawling out of the woodwork everywhere.
We could put a group together to play at BP-8.
Herb, Richard, Zen on vocals
Smellycat on lead guitar playing his 6 string Kenmore Strat-o-Caster.
Susan Bailey doing erotic dancing in the Birdcage.
The rest of us doing "Back-up" stuff.
Anthony doing the Percussion thing.
We could see how many different arrangements we could play Anthony's favorite song "Margaritaville"
We could call ourselves " The Scenic City VolksFolks Blue Steel Throbbers Family Band.
" I've Got The Bearing Burning, Rod Slinging Formula V Blues" Oh Yea Mama! :-({|=

Smelly_Cat · « **Reply #14 on:** November 25, 2005, 07:06:50 PM »

Bugnut.
Just put me way way back backup guitar.
I'm really good with 3 chord songs. 2 are even better.
Rusty strings just need some WD40 and a good sponge.
Being in tune means we all play the same chords at the same time.
Credit Cards make real good picks, the indented numbers make them less slippy when your fingers sweat.
SC

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