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Who's the welder in the bunch.

« on: May 21, 2006, 11:47:14 PM »
Figured some body knows how to weld/fabricate in this bunch. I'm gonna try to cut a beam down and put in adjusters. My step dad is gonna need some pans welded up and when he's done I'll need the same.

Figured I might be able to trade some stereo installation skills or maybe some of my wifes upholstery work for the job.

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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2006, 01:26:47 AM »
Are you talking about replacing pans or patching?
You might do better to just buy a beam that is  already set up with adjuster than trying to find someone to do the beating , sawing, welding. You are going to have to pay somebody  anyway.

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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2006, 09:18:34 AM »
Well it's cheaper and better if I can find one and use an original german beam. It runs $300 and up for a good built beam or $150 for junk.
As for the pans I know Bob needs his replaced on 1 side as well as the heater channel for the same side.He also needs some patch work on the package tray. Not sure about mine until after I strip it down but thats no time soon.

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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2006, 09:46:50 AM »
Scott, Club member Richard Strout is the man for pan/channel. He does excellent work. You might have to get in line.

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2006, 08:38:49 PM »
I've got a friend down here it the "triangle" that installed adjusters in a link pin beam a few years ago.  I watched him to it . . . there really isn't much to it . . . you just have to be EXACT with all of your cuts, keep everything PERFECTLY straight when you start tacking it up, and make sure your welds don't overheat and warp anything.  OK, maybe there is a "little" to it.  He did make it look easy though.  I've also helped (OK, I mostly just watched) him shorten a couple of chassis and fabricate 11 gauge steel pans with a 1X2 box iron lip for dune buggies.  He made that look easy too.   8)

Problem is, he doesn't do this type of work for a living, just as a hobby.  If he's in the mood to do it, he'll do it for next to nothing . . . if he's not in the mood, you don't have enough money to afford his services.  Last couple of years, he hasn't been in the mood for much of this kind of stuff.   :cry:

When it comes to replacing rusty floors, Richard is THE "Pan Man!"

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2006, 10:11:19 PM »
Thanks for the replys. Sadly my brother in law is a awesome welder and fabricator,but good luck getting him to do it! :lol:

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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2006, 11:23:13 PM »
Scott,   O.K. here's the deal...I do welding work as well. I have done the floorpan replacements as well as a good bit of repair work (nose clips, aprons, quarter panels, etc.)  Honestly, I'm not really big on grunt work (like your axle beam, for instance).  I would have to go with David on that one and say you might do good to search for one already set up with adjusters.  (That's not just me being a weinee...I've seen some not so stellar jobs done on these and would feel more comfortable with one that was professionally done, for the obvious reasons, not the least of which would be that word which many folks often avoid (myself included)...SAFETY.  You might take a look at dropped spindles as well.  I ran some of these for a while on a '67 beetle I have and they don't have so much of the adverse affect on handling that the modified beams do. All these do is lower your center point for the wheel while retaining your original steering and suspension geometry (even your stock shocks). The only two drawbacks to these are 1.) affordability of 5-lug set-ups if you end up converting to disc brakes and 2.)they do set your wheels and tires further outward in most cases, which could cause a problem with fender rubbing.
Back to the first point:  My area of repair/interest lies in fabrication and "one-offs".Perhaps it's the creative nature within.Yes, I do pans, quarters, and the like, but my real area of specialty is in "made-ups" and minor repair/custom fab work.  If you want your body de-chromed, a custom dash, or exhaust ports filled, then I'm your man.  By the way, I do turn wrenches at Village VW 50 hours or so a week, so patience is a requirement when I do work for anybody "on the side".  Let me know if I can help.

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2006, 11:24:19 PM »
Scott,   O.K. here's the deal...I do welding work as well. I have done the floorpan replacements as well as a good bit of repair work (nose clips, aprons, quarter panels, etc.)  Honestly, I'm not really big on grunt work (like your axle beam, for instance).  I would have to go with David on that one and say you might do good to search for one already set up with adjusters.  (That's not just me being a weinee...I've seen some not so stellar jobs done on these and would feel more comfortable with one that was professionally done, for the obvious reasons, not the least of which would be that word which many folks often avoid (myself included)...SAFETY.  You might take a look at dropped spindles as well.  I ran some of these for a while on a '67 beetle I have and they don't have so much of the adverse affect on handling that the modified beams do. All these do is lower your center point for the wheel while retaining your original steering and suspension geometry (even your stock shocks). The only two drawbacks to these are 1.) affordability of 5-lug set-ups if you end up converting to disc brakes and 2.)they do set your wheels and tires further outward in most cases, which could cause a problem with fender rubbing.
Back to the first point:  My area of repair/interest lies in fabrication and "one-offs".Perhaps it's the creative nature within.Yes, I do pans, quarters, and the like, but my real area of specialty is in "made-ups" and minor repair/custom fab work.  If you want your body de-chromed, a custom dash, or exhaust ports filled, then I'm your man.  By the way, I do turn wrenches at Village VW 50 hours or so a week, so patience is a requirement when I do work for anybody "on the side".  Let me know if I can help.

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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2006, 12:39:23 AM »
Thanks for the info, I figured I need a narrowed beam to help with spindles. As for the rest my cat won't get torn down until my stepdad finishes his. he needs pans and a wholelotta work on his drivers side channels plus a package tray and some other small patches. He does however want the das filled in to look pre67 it;s a 68.

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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2006, 11:50:54 PM »
Quite correct, a narrowed beam would help tremendously.. A friend of mine was running 165r15s on the front of his lowered 74 and they would easily rub the front fenders when he turned the wheels (no bumps required)  I've seen beams narrowed from 2-4".  Don't forget torsion leaves to go with them if you order a bare beam, because they are just that...BARE. As for the package shelf and more so the gas lid, that's the kind of suff I'm talking about. Let me know if you need some help in that area.

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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2006, 12:02:51 AM »
Thanks,and I'll let ya know when ever he gets everything together.

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