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Offline Bugnut

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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2008, 01:08:28 AM »
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Thanks for the info Scott. I am glad that i do not need it. I have never had anything like that on it sence i have had it. I would hate to have to " fix " it when it is runnign great and i am driving it nearly every day........Rob


I assumed you are driving it everyday since you haven't called in the last week. :lol:

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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2008, 01:43:11 AM »
i had thought about it sence i still have a little ticking sound on one of the drivers side valves, but it is not bad. I just seem to hear it better sence you showed me what to listen for while you were adjusting them. I also need to come over and get a few engine tin screws....... :D

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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2008, 02:19:45 AM »
While your here pick up some original valve covers and a gasket set for Pete's sake.
 As for ticking sounds unless you get solid shaft rocker arms and chromoly pushrods (they are set at .oo4 because they dont expand like aluminum pushrods.)you'll always here some ticking. the valves are set lose (.006)on purpose because VW figured out long ago what happens when they are set tight. Ceratain metals expand at different rates hence they decided to change the settings when they noticed all the valves burning up. Trust me a slight ticking is much better than a dropped valve.If a vw engine is totaly quiet its not running. :lol:

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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2008, 10:04:44 AM »
FYI  Interesting thing that we use to get into on valve noise.  Lets say that all the shafts,rocker arm, adjusters are perfect.   We could set 7 valves at .004 and 1 valve at .006 and that one valve would sound like a hammer mill.    Then set all 8 valves at .007 with very,very little noise.
     Back in the 40 hp days ,the early "round boss" heads were supposed to set at .008 (cold) They closed up as the the engine warmed up. These engines ran pretty quite until they started burning exhaust valves. We got a shop memo that said to set the exhaust valves at .012 and intakes at .008.  Talk about singing a tune and pretty soon the rocker studs stripped out of the heads. We installed the modifier (factory) kit and the adjustment went back to .004 and ran very quite until they again started to burn exhaust valves. We then started setting the valves at .006 . No more burned valves and they ran very quite.
       VW changed the head on the late 40 hp to the "square boss"  373 type head. The valve clearance open up as the engine warmed up. The rest is history.
        I always set the valves on stock engines at .006
        I have no problem on using the high price spread on the rockers,push rods, shafts, Its just money
         I would make a bet that at least 70% of the Type-1 rocker arms out there running around are original and have a little wear issue :shock:

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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2008, 12:37:19 PM »
I do understand what both you and the Godfather are saying about the valves and ther sounds. I like the slight sound, it is the sound of a real engine and what a car should sound like. I drove my other car the other day and after starting the car at the store i adjusted some stuff i had picked up and turned around to start the car again. I stoped just short of turning the ignition key again while the engine was running because i looked at the tach in the dash. I just could not hear the engine like i could with the bug.

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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2008, 01:51:21 PM »
You need to ride around in a duel carb bug for awhile if you want to hear "noise" or just take mine for a spin and listen to the nice lil cam lobing somewhere deep inside it. :lol:  Rob, your car sounds like a dang singer sewing machine you could however use an exhaust eventually. The only aircooled I've seen around quiter is my step dads Ghia and its a brand new engine thats darn near bone stock with stock exhaust. Of course it louder than a modern car sheeesh. :roll:

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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2008, 02:33:22 PM »
singer sewing machines have been around for a very long time and people love them the way my bug has been around for a long time and i love it. But yes i will need another exaust eventually. Any ideas on the type, do i go with a stock one what when the one i have goes bad.

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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2008, 02:37:59 PM »
Stock is fine as long as it's german. I also like the lil euro tuck ceramic exhaust. Its oneof the few that sounds good ,last and fits the stock exhaust cutouts. Probably a lil better than the local stock mufflers as far as how long it would last. NO EMPI ever! :lol:

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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2008, 09:38:42 AM »
Here is something I haven't done before.  Albert deAllison's wiper motor parks on the left side. This motor is the one that came with the Buggy and is a Type-1 with the "can" motor like a 73-74 Standard beetle. I have had a little brain fade . What years did a wiper motor for a late Standard Beetle ever park on the left ?   Has anyone ever taken the wiper transmisson apart and turned the drive gear 180 Degrees to make it park on the right ? I'm not sure if it can be done.  I don't have a old unit to play with.

     Oh yeah, Does anyone have 2 of the little round plastic covers that "pop" into the wiper arms to cover the 10mm shaft nuts ?

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