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The Ghia died :(

« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2005, 12:02:12 AM »
Yep the maths is pretty much correct.  All you need to know is the angle (32 degrees) and the radius of the pulley (centre to outside edge of the pulley).  Assuming the radius is r, then the distance you need to measure is a straight line from the notch (yellow dot at top in the handy attatched diagram) to the new timing position (the orange line).

To get this new distance (dist), you need to use some trig:

  dist = 2 x sin(angle/2) x radius

so for a 32 degree position with the radius at 150mm (it's dark & I'm not going outside to measure it!) you would have:

dist = 2 x 150 / sin(32/2) = 83mm (the orange line length)

This gives you a straight line meausurement.  If you wanted the arc measurement (ie from notch to new position around the pulley rather than direct line) then use PI...

arcdist = (angle/360) * 2 * π * radius

so for our example above:
arcdist = (32/360) * 2 * π * 150 = 84mm (rounded a bit!)

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The Ghia died :(

« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2005, 12:09:49 AM »
OK, end-of-Sunday status...

Gobusgo - got the tacho sorted.  Black wire to ground, red wire to condenser side of coil.  No idea what that spare wire does!  I have definitely got #1 plug - passenger side, towards the front of the car.

David - attempted timing again, it's getting there but could do better ;) May try the 83mm trick to get the correct position!

Zen - thanks for making my head hurt!

Offline 71SuperBee

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The Ghia died :(

« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2005, 06:46:59 AM »
The extra wire on a tach is to put it to the light switch so you can turn the light down plus you can also have lights.. thanks

        aaron

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« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2005, 10:12:46 AM »
Zen , Indeed it will work, but,but,but, Is that notch on the pulley really "0" (TDC) ?   Remember that tech article in the news letter about Pulley notches ?  Most of the time the pulley with 1 notch ONLY on the inner edge IS "0",but TopGhia is saying he has 2 other notches spaced out on the pulley that doesn`t make sence to me . Which one is "0" ?  This does not have to be rocket science here. I need to look at his pulley to see which one of these notches is indeed "0" ,then I can mark him a 32 degree notch from that. You guys have worn my "nootle"out with the math thing. :?

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« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2005, 10:41:18 AM »
I only have the one notch (sorry for the confusion!) - but someone has put two white-out marks at roughly 180 degrees to the single notch.

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« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2005, 11:15:52 AM »
OK, That makes sence. Those marks are more than likely added for when the Tech adjusted valves( later on that subject)  If you are absoluty  sure there is NO mark on the outer rim,( it would be a little to the left of the notch if present) Your 1 notch is "0"(TDC) . Now you can mark it. Whew !!!   :lol:

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« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2005, 11:21:57 AM »
Yep definitely the one notch, no other marks near the notch.  

So that's TDC then and at 1500rpm I need to show 32 degrees?As my timing light doesn't do this I'm going to try the maths approach above - but would be very interested to see how accurate it is compared to a timing light.

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2005, 12:04:27 PM »
Jolly Good , You are closing in on it. If it runs OK ,You could come by my house and we will compare notes and maybe get all the little stuff tuned in. Tonight would be find . You can call me for directions . How about around 7pm if you can?  Then we would still have a little daylight left. I checked my phone ,do you work at a bike shop?

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The Ghia died :(

« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2005, 12:08:02 PM »
Yep it runs enough to drive so can come round - 7pm is fine.  I'll give you a call in a few hours.

I don't actually work at a bike shop, although the company name might suggest so ;)

Thanks!

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« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2005, 02:16:51 PM »
Thank god for timing lights with advance on them. If I knew I had to add that up in math I would just be walking. "math was never my best subject" anyway Thanks for all the information though...

 
          Aaron :D

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« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2005, 02:07:35 PM »
Just thought I'd give a quick final update!

Went round to David's on Monday evening who tuned the thing up in about 2 minutes... it's amazing what the right tools and right knowledge can do! The engine is now running so much better than it was (understandably!).  There's still the occasional backfire when I'm coasting but nothing too serious.

So thanks to everyone for offers, help, comments and everything else!

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2005, 03:53:45 PM »
Hey , Im Glad the Ghia is doing OK for you.  Something I forgot to check is , Did you put a little lube on the "rubbing block" of the Ing. points? If not ,you can put a little on the dist.shaft without hurting anything.
  You may a slight exhaust leak that will cause the backfire.

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The Ghia died :(

« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2005, 03:57:26 PM »
I have more than a slight exhaust leak which is why I'm not too worried at the moment!

I didn't put any grease on when I chagned the points but will do so now.

Thanks!

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« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2005, 04:18:34 PM »
Good !! I don`t know how many times I have "chewed" people out for not putting a little lube on the shaft/rub block, now dang it !!
 I did it myselve. Thats embarrassing. :oops:  :oops:

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The Ghia died :(

« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2005, 06:28:19 PM »
Some of us don't think so Godfather but I guess we will have to admit you are human.

You still fall into the Super Hero category though. :lol:

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