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Offline Bugnut

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« on: October 10, 2005, 08:50:33 AM »
Does any body around Chattanoga have a tow bar that would fit a 71 SB?
I really need to borrow one to go pick one up in Nashville this weekend.
I'm willing to do stupid human tricks or something for it or a big Owe ya one for when your stuck in the middle of knowhere.
Thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2005, 10:32:51 AM »
I don't think I have ever seen a tow bar for a type 3 . I may be wrong here though. :?:

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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2005, 03:29:21 PM »
I sold my '71 Square today.  Edd (leetool) improvised with a tow bar that he has had for nearly 30 years.  It was somewhat more like a Super Beetle tow bar than a Standard Beetle tow bar.  It still didn't fit right...a little improvising was in order.  And you had better be confident in your improvising if you are going to tow it from Nashville.
Like David said, I too don't think there is a tow bar for a Type 3.  The front beam is tall and narrow, much like a Porsche front beam. (I learned that today from Edd...)
Your best bet is to "rent, borrow, beg, or steal" a tow dolly.  Your better bet ($$$) is to put it on a trailer or rollback.
Sorry I don't have anything to help you with.

BTW, how did that tow work out, Edd?

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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2005, 03:53:29 PM »
Good to  know I guess,I can't help but think of all the crap I am about to get into with this thing.

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2005, 08:46:12 PM »
Does a type 3 have a "deformation plate" under the front sort'a like a Super Beetle?  Seems like someone told me they did.  If so, I used to have a home-made Super Beetle tow bar that would work . . . but I loaned it out and never got it back.  I really need to have another one like it made.

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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2005, 10:11:05 PM »
I don't know anything about the type 3 to be honest. It was a project a guy got half done with and is relocating due to work. So for darn near nothing I got it with all kinds of still in the box goodies. Do you have schematics for that little contraption? My brother in law works as a welder/fabricator looks like he could build it from scrap during lunch.

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2005, 08:32:59 AM »
Its been awhile since I have looked under a type-3, but I do not remember a plate being there.
 I think Travis has the right idea about using a tow dolly or trailer. It wouldn't be very cool to see your "Treasure" passing you coming down Monteagle.  
  FYI !!!! If this" critter" is a auto-matic and you use a tow bar, take the rear half-shafts off. If you use a tow dolly,tow from the rear. The automatics only have one tranny pump and it is driven by the engine. You can melt the tranny down if you tow a long distance or at speeds over 30 mph. This little "Tidbit" also applys to type-2 and Rabbit/Golfs automatics. I have seen it happen with a short trip across town. :(

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2005, 01:10:55 PM »
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Does a type 3 have a "deformation plate" under the front sort'a like a Super Beetle?


Nope.  I just went out and looked at my Super's front beam...nothing like that.  It looks more like an elongated "H" (not exactly like an "H", but that's the best I can come up with).

I found some help at this link below...

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=64103&highlight=towing

This other link is inside the former link, but I'll put it here for whomever to look at:

http://www.icbm.org/erkson/ttt/transmission.html

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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2005, 02:44:12 PM »
Good info,This thing is a rolling chasis right now so I think I'll go with a dolly but I am definetly considering building a tow bar for it in the future. And nope it's not an auto so at least I won't have that problem.

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2005, 08:34:08 PM »
Quote from: "67bugnut"
Do you have schematics for that little contraption?


I don’t have a “schematic” but it's a pretty simple setup and REAL easy to hook up.  It was also SUPER STRONG.  I know from experience it will hold tight in a 35 MPH jack-knife.  Didn't do the front apron or the right front fender any good, but the bar stayed in place.  After looking it over real good, I just hopped back in the truck and drove off.  

Here's how it works.  There are two pieces of channel iron (4" wide if I remember correctly) cut to a length that will allow them to sit in the pocket above the big holes in the deformation plate.  In the center of these pieces there is a bolt (can't remember the size right off the bat, but it was a standard bolt that uses a 3/4" wrench) through a hole in the plate, tightened down with a nut on the other side and both the nut and bolt were welded to the channel iron.

You drop the channel iron pieces in the pocket above the hole in the deformation plate with the bolt hanging down.

The cross piece of the tow bar is made from a piece of angle iron with a square block welded in each end.  On the top flat side of the angle iron there are two holes drilled. The whole angle iron piece rotates on a bolt through the tow bar arms and a hold in the square block on the ends of the angle iron.

You slide the bar under the front of the car, lift it up and put the bolts hanging down from the deformation plate through the holes in the angle iron, run a nut up tight from the bottom and then put a jam nut on them for good measure.  You could drill a hole through the bolt and stick some kind of pin in there to keep the nut from backing out, but a nut and jam nut never failed for me.  I used this thing many times.  Worked like a charm and it was built from scrap in about 30 minutes by a friend of mine.  20 minutes of that was dedicated to “engineering.”  I’ve used the store bought Super Beetle tow bars . . . they are weak and hard to hook up compared to this one.

Anyway, if there isn’t a deformation plate with holes in it behind the apron, this bar wouldn’t work on a type 3 . . . but if you ever need to tow a Super . . .

Here's a couple more pictures:





And here is the Super after the jack-knife incident (this happened near the end of 125 miles of interstate towing which included Monteagle).  The bumper of my truck took out the headlight and fender, the bar warp up the apron, but nothing stucturally bent on the bar or the Super Beetle.

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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2005, 09:38:10 PM »
Seems pretty simple I think I could get one made after I have the car to fit it to.
Thanks!

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