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Need Rear Spring Plate bushings replaced in 73 Thing

« on: November 21, 2006, 01:35:44 PM »
Is there anyone 'round who replaces  those rubber bushings for the torsion bar in the rear suspension?  You need that protractor and plate compressor tool.  Called Al Johnson VW whose the oldest VW place in  the area... they no longer have the tools either.... any ideas?? :?

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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2006, 11:18:26 PM »
I've never done it on a bus, but I've done it on a Beetle a couple of times.  All I used was a floor jack to slowly raise and lower the spring plate and a heavy rubber "dead blow" hammer to tap the spring plate off the stop and then back on it.  While I was replacing the bushings, I also "re-indexed" the torsion bars on my wife's 75 convertible to get the sag out of its rear end.  I didn't use a protractor . . . just a little trial and error.  It took about 3 or 4 attempts on each side to get it just where I wanted it.

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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2006, 11:05:12 PM »
I have done it, too,  but you have to be very careful...those torsion bars scare the crap out of me.  You can paint mark the outer splines across the bar and spring plates and use a puller to seperate the two ( leave the bar in the inner seat)  I use a VERY STURDY pry bar to pry outward slightly on the plate and another VERY STURDY pry bar to hold pressure against the plate from the lower edge, untill it clears the stop so it doesn't take my arm off when it drops down.  I also use a foor jack under the rear edge of the arm, like Zen saidto lower/raise the plate on/off the stop.  If this scares you a little, it should.  Be very careful when playing around with these springs, as it's one of those jobs that's likely to hurt if it goes bad.  I've heard some unpleasant stories regarding this little job and injuries that were received.

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2006, 06:04:23 PM »
That reminds me . . . I forgot to add a disclaimer.  This technique may only work correctly in "The Triangle."  If you don't know what I'm talking 'bout, ask the Godfather (a.k.a. RetBugtech) to explain.

If you use the prybar, jack and hammer method, you definitly need to respect the stored energy in the torsion rod.  Make sure the vehicle is secure on GOOD, heavy duty jack stands, operate the jack slowly, and always have every part of your body well out of the line of fire "just in case."  
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2006, 11:06:12 PM »
Be carefull! I did it with a hammer and a large amount of retarded. Trust me it can hurt a long time. It could have been more than a sore spot and bruises,I learned my lesson. Respect the torsions! :lol:

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2006, 07:38:38 AM »
Scott, I want to say something soooooo bad, but I shall go easy on you this time.  You know, they say if it doesn't work out the first time, get a bigger hammer.  I think my problem is that I always get a bigger retarded and forget where I placed the hammer.  That's actually not true.  Retarded implies a legitimate disability.  I think we may just be guilty of the "stupid factor".....Hee Hee Hee.....Ooh, look, something shiny!

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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2006, 10:50:27 AM »
Hmmm... Rubber bushings,  you say ....Are they important?
 Do Stupor beetles have them?
How do you tell if the rubber bushings need replacing?
Does the onboard VW computor  sense bushing failure  and a light come up on the dash?
What calamity befalls those who ignore rubber bushings?   S/C

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2006, 09:02:11 PM »
Hey SC . . . Yep, stupers have the rubber bushings and see'n's how it's been bouncing around on them since the early 70's, Stupie's rubber bushing thingies are probably worn . . . but unless you hear metal stuff clanging around in the rear suspension every time you hit a bump, or have some specific reason to tear into them, you're probably best off just leaving them alone for now.   :wink:

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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2006, 06:03:28 PM »
i have the tool ok where is it last seen in the shower bus

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2006, 03:35:23 PM »
Rick, Don't spare Scott bad words . He 's a grown man and is lucky not to be in a cast. Trust me on that.
   Zen has the right idea carefully using a floor jack, but sometimes when you use a jack ,it will start moving the whole body up before you get to the spot where you can "bang" the plate back on . You can get hurt here also. I have a very easy trick to make this painless ( pun  intended) and no its not a homemade turn buckle. If you just have to "bang" the plate on or off ,work over the top.
    I can show you several tricks to use if you need to set the bars and don't have the proper tools.
    Another thing NOT to do: If the bar slides all the way out, don't go banging on it or scratch the red coating when you find out it makes a wonderful , beautiful bell unless you have a death wish. THEY CAN EXPLODE into 100 zillon metal fragments if you get the right harmonic going. I saw this demostrated in a flim clip at VW school. A rare thing but it can happen.
   I really think we need to talk about this before someone gets hurt. Sometimes you guys scare me to death.
   If you want to set the bars on a van or Westy you need to find the proper tools to be safe or install air shocks with independent air valves.
  Did Allen say he had the plate vice ?  His punctuation and spelling is almost as bad as mine. :lol:

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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2006, 06:02:18 PM »
I don't like cast so I learned not to mees with things under pressure that I don't know about. (Except for you David,I'm still dumb enough to mess with you)
Oh yeah did you get home and see your Dashing nice planter? :lol:
You know I'm lying,I might be dumb sometimes but I'm not suicidal. 8)

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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2006, 09:38:53 PM »
Quote from: "Ret.Bugtech"
If you want to set the bars on a van or Westy you need to find the proper tools to be safe or install air shocks with independent air valves.


I guess I looked at his screen name instead of his post  :tard:  . . . Westfalia7's original question was about replacing the bushing on a 73 Thing.

Allen has (or "had") a turnbuckle to raise and lower the spring plate.  We used it to collaps the suspension on the shower bus when we set it up at BP8 . . . Allen, if you didn't get it back, it's probably in the front of the shower bus.

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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2006, 08:56:28 AM »
Linda and I made it back late Mon.night. We didn't think we were going to get out of San Fran. Mon. morning. The 757 dropped a valve or something before we even got on board. American got us on another flight 3 hours later and belive this or not ,we went through St Louis to Nashville and ended up being only about 10 min. late overall. We must have had a couple of ex- fighter Jocks in control and had all the sails up.
    Frisco is a VW town alright . Saw more Type-2s than anything. I will post later on what we saw. 8)

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2006, 11:04:49 AM »
Welcome home,now go work on something. I saw a few nice vintage garage signs at Lockharts that some old guy had wrote and stuck to the wall. A few customers took some of them. Pretty funny stuff.

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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2006, 02:09:14 PM »
I remember them.  The one on the door was put there to keep prying eyes and fingers off Mark Chapmans mint ,one owner '56 356 Porche Speedster that I serviced for his Dad since 1963. "Chappy" Jr. still owns this car and it lives in his den behind the couch and gets taken out for a run ever so once in awhile. It has never been moslested with other than a clutch and the carbs cleaned. Beautiful car.
  The other sign was labor prices for Bozos when they got in my way.I think.
  You didn,t find that spray can of "Bus-Be-Gone did you ?

 Are these the ones you are talking about ?
  :lol:

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