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Offline Russ

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« on: September 07, 2004, 04:51:42 PM »
Okay, here's a good one. I found this thing stuffed in the trunk of the Jetta. I have no idea what it is, but there's a VW/Audi logo stamped on it, and a part number: 191 127 435.

Anyone know what to do with it? If you had the ability to look up part numbers, it might be quite easy to find out.

Please don't tell me it's a catheter for my car  :cry:

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2004, 05:43:18 PM »
Well , At least its a German catheter.  Call VW Chatt. parts dept. and give them the number. Someone out there may know how to look it up.  :lol:

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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2004, 01:02:50 AM »
I will call them in the morning. I tried Google, but didn't come up with any answers. This is the closest I could come to an explanation: http://www.tw-vertex.com.tw/e_product01.htm

Maybe it helps my car enjoy more funs?

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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2004, 10:23:42 AM »
Close Russ; it is a "Water Collector."  Now just where and why it collects water, I don't have a clue, but it is a Water Collector.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2004, 10:26:08 PM »
Quote from: "Russ"
Please don't tell me it's a catheter for my car  :cry:


Ummmm . . . basically, yeah, that's what it is.   :lol:

I finally found it listed in ETKA (the VW/Audi Electronic parts catalog).  It didn't show it in the picture, but the number showed up under another number for an assembly as "including" . . . it's part of the water collection system in the fuel line.

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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2004, 10:53:38 PM »
Hmm. Thanks Zen. If that's the case, then doesn't it need to be hooked up? You know, to keep moisture out of the fuel lines?

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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2004, 11:34:30 PM »
Russ , Look under the car on the right side between the fuel tank and the body of the car and see if the same part is installed there.  Should be a plastic tank with a drain cap. Don`t you remember Steve talking about draining this tank when you service the car? This the only water-seperator on the car.

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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2004, 09:18:04 AM »
Well I looked under the car and I could see the fuel tank, but I didn't see a bladder installed anywhere, or even where one would go. Maybe I should try and call Steven? If this thing really is responsible for collecting moisture and preventing it from entering the fuel system, I'm thinking it's pretty important that it be hooked up.

Now onto my NEXT question...Underneath the steering wheel on the left side there is a little pull-out. I've never messed with it while the engine is running, but it seems to just pull out and push in again. What is this, and what do I do with it?

I wish I had a manual with this car. :roll:

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2004, 10:54:13 AM »
Russ, Its not a Bladder .  Its a plastic tank.  I can`t imagine it not being on there.  They did crack  sometimes and they are not terribly cheap. It possible that somewhere along the line somebody removed it and rerouted the fuel lines. They are nice to have,but you also have a fuel canister (filter) in the engine compartment on the right side that almost does the same thing. If the water-separater is not on the car and you don`t want to install one, change the filter more often. Look again and be sure you didn`t overlook it.  Your push/pull knob, I think, is the cold start advance knob for your injector pump. It should have a "s" stamped in the face. You can pull this knob out on very cold days to help start the engine and push it back in after it runs for a min. or two.  I know the Rabbits had this feature, but the knob was up on the dash.Like I said, I think this is what the knob does.Its been a long time since I have look at a later model Jetta diesel  :?:   You could get someone to move the knob in and out while you look at the injector pump on the back side between the engine block and the pump body . There should be a lever that has a wire cable connected to it. It should move back and forth. It does not have to be running while you are looking.

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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2004, 11:38:00 AM »
At Toccoa last week, I saw several type 1 heater boxes that were wrapped with a vinyl-looking cover that I'm assuming was for insulation purposes.  It looked original.   No one else in our group had ever seen these, either.  Was this done for northern or Canadian markets or certain years?  Richard was wondering if they had rust problems because of trapped moisture. :-k

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2004, 01:12:52 AM »
Both of the Type 3's I have owned had this insulation wrap that was around their heater boxes.  It looked like cotton padding wrapped with leather or burlap.  I'm sure it wasn't cotton and burlap, but that's what it looked like.  They "snapped" together around the heater boxes.

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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2004, 08:53:52 AM »
I have seen a few wrapped type-1 heater boxes. A customer of mine had a `67 type-1 from Norway with wrapped boxes and a muffler that looked like it was coated with black porcilin(?). It never rusted out as long as I knew the car.  As far as I know all type-3`s boxes were wrapped. I`m not sure what the wrap was made of. Asbestos maybe? :-k

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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2004, 06:54:34 PM »
Quote from: "Ret.Bugtech"
I`m not sure what the wrap was made of. Asbestos maybe? :-k


Probably!  Didn't they have a recall of Type 4 heater boxes a few years ago because they were rusting away (after about 25 years of service) and exposing the asbestos?  Someone told me about buying a parts bus and trailering it to the dealership to get brand new heater boxes installed for free under the recall . . . it would of been back in the mid to late 90s.  Was there any truth to that?

As for the "catheter" bag that started this thread . . . Kyle said the 91 diesel Jetta he bought recently had the same bag in with the jack and lug wrench.  He said he thinks it is supposed to be hooked to the drain just to catch the water when you bleed it off of the fuel system.  Makes sense.  You wouldn't want to drain diesel fuel on the ground would you?

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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2004, 08:45:41 AM »
Going back to the heater box thingy, shortly after I bought the 78 bus in the back shop, I found out VWoA would in fact replace original heater boxes. FREE!! :D  I remember calling a man in Atlanta and he arranged for me to bring the bus to Al Johnson VW in Dalton and they did the replacement there. FREE!! :D

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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2004, 09:01:10 AM »
I haven`t heard of a heater box recall/warr.  Could have been a silent recall/warr. that VW is so famous for.  VW never would amit to any problem until someone slapped a class action suit on them. Like the BIG oil burning problem with the early Rabbits and the hyd.brake lines rusting out inside the car ( Rabbits) , Heater cores rusting out, Diesel engines "running" away.  I think that if you showed up at the dealer today with a`78 Rabbit with the brake lines rusted out, they ,under protest would have to replace them. Check this out, When I was shop forman at Southland VW, I replaced 2 tail lens on a `62 Bug that had bleached from red to clear under warr. I think this warr. is still in effect if you pitch a fit. Its all about safety. There were a lot of silent recalls, even on Beetles that VW never disclosed to the public much less repaired under warr. Most of the time the owner paid unless he was informed somehow
       Who in his right mind is going to lay in the dirt with Pamper/bladder in hand to drain the water separator. Ah, another clever inovation from VW. :roll:

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