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Offline Gobusgo

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Master Cylinder - Late Bus

« on: November 03, 2005, 11:17:28 PM »
I was repairing some of my heater pipes up under Oscar when I noticed some fluid on my master cylinder on the base where it meets up with the brake servo.  It wasn't coming from between the master cylinder and servo, it was coming out of a small hole on the master cylinder (not on the long side, but on the base, near the bottom).  I thought that it was a hole caused by rust and deterioration.  So, I bought a new one and put it on today.  When I got the old one off, I cleaned where the hole was and noticed it was too "perfect" a hole to be corrosion.  Is there a drain hole that leaks to warn you of worn seals on the inside of the master cylinder?  If so, I wonder if this is what this is?  It looks like the original master cylinder (the brake switches are VW).

Also, I replaced my brake hoses today, too.  The ones that I took off had date stamps of 3/77, and 6/77.  It make me wonder if these could be the same hoses that VW put on at the factory?  Oscar was made in 8/77... :-k

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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2005, 04:10:05 PM »
Sounds like the hole in a lot of water pumps that is supposed to leak when one of them is going bad!

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2005, 02:11:27 PM »
You Guys keep me "rattling" long stagnant brain cells. If I remember correcty, the little weep hole in the master is to keep the leaky master cly. from dumping fluid into your brake booster. :-k

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2005, 06:42:45 PM »
Thanks.  The new one didn't come with a weep hole.  So when it goes bad, should I expect to have some brake fluid flow into my brake servo?  I can still get rebuild kits for the late bus master cylinder, can't I?

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2005, 03:14:23 AM »
I have seen weep holes in some master cly. and not in others. As far as repair kits go, I'm not sure if you can get one or not anymore. I guess we will have to start "rat holding" stuff when we come across them.
     You will get some fluid in the servo if the "non-weeper" starts to leak, but knowing you, you will detect a problem before it does any damage. Its amazing how much fluid a servo can hold.

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2005, 06:34:52 PM »
Can the brake servo hold as much fluid as the front pan support on a Super Beetle?  The first Super Beetle master cylinder I had a problem with took me a few months to figure out.  The brakes would get real mushy all at once and the reservior would be empty.  I'd fill it up, adjust and bleed the brakes and everything would seem fine for a few days, then it would be dry again.  I hunted for a leak for months and couldn't find a sign of where the fluid was going.  It finally got to where you could get all the air out, so I replace the master cyclinder.  The boot at the pedal end was cracked and it was leaking out the back and pouring down into the front pan support.  I shop-vac'ed put what seemed like 10 times more fluid than that cavity should be able to hold.

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