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Offline lamar

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Ignition problem

« on: August 27, 2006, 07:53:28 PM »
My 72 Super Beetle has developed an ignition problem. Sometimes, when I turn the switch to start the engine, nothing happens. There is no sounds from the the starter at all, not even a click. Most times on a second try it will start just fine. But on Saturday, on the trip back from Birmingham, we stopped to eat and when I tried to start the bug up when were we leaving the restaurant, nothing(Cindy had to push me off, she wasn't to happy about that since it was really a hot day). There is power to the dash but it doesn't get to the starter. I drove home without stopping the engine again until I got the bug into the garage. I turned the switch off and then back on and it started right up.

What's with this? Where should I start in tracking this down. What would be the "start with the simple things first" to try, and were would I go from there?

Offline Zen

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Ignition problem

« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2006, 11:24:15 PM »
71 and back I wouldn't even attempt to guess, but on a 72 or later, 10 to 1 it's a bad ignition switch.

The replacement switches on the market today have a life expectancy of about a year . . . but a lot of 'em die young.  When you buy one, you might as well buy two and keep a spare in your glove box.  If you've got a spare, you can plug it in and try it to make sure that's the problem before you change it.

There not hard to change.  After you've done it a few times, you'll get real good at it.  You need a small flat screwdriver, a 6mm allen wrench, a 27mm (or is it a 24mm?) deep well socket and a ratchet.

Take off the horn button (snap it out, twist it 90 degrees, disconnect the wire and lay it aside.  Take off the big nut that holds the steering wheel and pull the wheel off.  Under the bottom/back of the collumn, unplug the wires going to the switch (one big plug), the wires to the turn signals and wiper swithes (two thin plugs that snap together) and unhook the windshield washer hoses (if they were hooked up).  Remove the four little screws that hold the wiper/washer and turn signal switches in.  Pull the two switches out as a unit.  If they are originals and you take them apart, chances are good that the plastic around the pins that hold them together is cracked and parts might fly out of them.   Now look in the hole under the plastic cover piece and take out the 6mm allen bolt.  Slide the whole lock assembly housing off the end of the collumn.  One screw holds the switch in.  Change it out and put it back together in the reverse order.

Oh, yeah.  There is a little plastic bushing inside the bearing that won't be intact anymore.  I always just wrap electrical tape around the collumn to take up the slack and let it go at that.  The tape will probably outlast the new switch you put in.  :?

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Ignition problem

« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2006, 03:06:38 AM »
Lamar, Zen is pretty much in line with the switches in '72s
      Here is another way to do a fast check. If it does it again watch your alt and oil pressure lights and turn the key slowly on then to the starting position. If the lights dim down and the starter doesn't work, don't rule out that you might have a starter motor trying to die. Lights diming down tells me that you are getting power to the solinoid , but not through it. Heat is the killer on old starters/ switches. I think on your car there is a big red wire under the back seat on the drivers side. It has a single inline "push on" connector. Its by itselve and I have seen these get bad connections and cause the same problem. I would check these things first as changing out switches is not one of my favorite things to do. Bring the car to the pool party and we will look it.

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Ignition problem

« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2006, 09:41:44 AM »
I had the same problem with my '72, Lamar.  I thought it could be the switch, because I was getting power to the starter, and the lights would turn on, but dim when turning the ignition.  Turns out there was a Ford Mustang starter solenoid under the rear seat that had bit the dust.  Replaced it, and the Beetle fires up each and every time!

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