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Offline 71SuperBee

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How to properly take off a pitman

« on: October 30, 2005, 12:16:39 PM »
Hey there everyone, sadly as I hate to say this my bug has went south on the front end. THere is oil comming from my right side strut "pass side" Also the steering damper bushing is shot.. I will need to replace this so I am going to install new bushings for the sway, and for the control arms. Can anyone tell me what size i will need to take off the pitman arm to get a new steering damper bushing installed..  Also I seen in the book that I will need to turn the center of the nut with a small screw driver i guess to tighten up for what ever reason. Can i get some help here. I will just rebuild the whole front end this winter and then that way summer won't be that bad. Let me know please thanks

  Aaron

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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2005, 01:13:58 PM »
I have a pair of used SB struts for sale if you're interested.

Offline 71SuperBee

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How to properly take off a pitman

« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2005, 01:16:02 PM »
U think they would last me?? How much? One of mine is leaking.. Badd... I have to beee careful.. Are they for a 71? And do you know how to take off the pitman arm?

  Aaron

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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2005, 06:03:05 PM »
Aaron, when it comes to Super Beetle front ends, I've got two words of advice - Topline Parts.  These folks KNOW Super Beetle front ends.  When you talk to the salesman, you are more than likely talking to someone who has rebuilt the front end on the Super Beetle he drove to work.  I installed one of their bushing kits on my son's 74 Super almost 10 years ago and it still doesn't shimmy.

It's been a while since I worked on a Super Beetle front end, but it seems like if you have a 13, 17, and 19 mm wrench you can have the whole front suspension on the ground in just a matter of minutes . . . It's kind'a scarey how few parts there are up there!

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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2005, 08:03:01 PM »
Aaron. What ever you do while you are taking the struts off the car, under no circumstances take the nut thats on top, center of your strut. ( under the hood) only the 13mm nuts to the side . 2 per side I think. Then you will need a coil spring compressor to take it apart to replace the shock itself.  I have seen what these springs can do to your body if you do this wrong. Not a pretty sight.

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2005, 08:17:21 PM »
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Then you will need a coil spring compressor to take it apart to replace the shock itself.  


And keep in mind that all coil spring compressors are not created equal.  If you use a pair of those cheap ones that is basically a threaded rod with two hooks . . . be ready for them to pop over sideways and fly off at any second!  Been there, done that, lucky to be alive!

A coil spring of that size doesn't have to be compressed much to store enough energy to be deadly if it's released suddenly.  Buy, rent or borrow a GOOD coil spring compressor!  :!:

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How to properly take off a pitman

« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2005, 08:30:42 PM »
thank you everyone. and don't worry i will not un do that nut in the middle. I have read and been warned. Thanks everyone. I will go to toplineparts and get what i need... Also i will try to rent a spring compressor that is a damn good one. Don't want to loose my head  lol  litterly..     :lol:  



  I will be careful. But does anyone know the best way to install a steering dampner busing on the pitman?

  Bugtech are you sure you are not dead? And just haven't passed yet? Everytime I call I can't get ya.. LOl... OOOOHHH halloween thanks

  aaron

Offline Ret.Bugtech

How to properly take off a pitman

« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2005, 09:47:51 AM »
Well, I'm still here,but sometimes I don't check my machine as often as I should. I have been "up to my Yang" in window repairs and 40 hp engines and sometimes I just sit down in the evenings ,mix myself a "Toddy" and just kit back.
 As far as those damper bushings, there are no tricks. Use your head, not as a tool or maybe you could. :lol: No rocket stuff here. Be sure to check your damper. No air pockets. Should feel resitance from one end to the other when you pull in and out.

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How to properly take off a pitman

« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2005, 10:10:58 AM »
Yeah Tech,

  Seems pretty logical, but The bushing that is warn on where the small end of the shock bolts right beside the center drag link. Also I am not sure on how to go about putting one in. Can they be done with the pitman arm still attached? I am using my head and can't come up with a answer. This is why I ask you .. lol.. Anway I will see what I can do thanks..

  Aaron

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2005, 11:51:10 AM »
I never took anything off except the damper as I remember

Offline 71SuperBee

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How to properly take off a pitman

« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2005, 12:47:16 PM »
ok not a problem thanks. another thing, can someone put locks on my wing vent windows? I need them badddd

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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2005, 03:49:27 PM »
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can someone put locks on my wing vent windows?


You can get replacement locks and rivit them on, but if I'm not mistaken, you have to remove the vent window from the car and disassemble it . . . and it probably takes some special rivit drivers.  Then it wouldn't make sense to put it back together without replaceing the seal and rubber that holds the glass in place.  You can buy brand new vent windows complete and ready to install . . . seems like they run around $75 or maybe a little less.  I think I'd go that route before I tried to install new latches.

What I normally do though is find some decent ones at a swap meet.  You can usually find some decent ones in the $5-$10 range if you look around a little.  Since it might be a while before you can get to a good swap meet, you might want to keep an eye out for them on eBay or http://www.thesamba.com

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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2005, 07:36:38 PM »
I had a vent wing window lock on the driver's side of Sweetpea that would always come loose.  There is a pin that I *think* holds the swivel part with the knob onto the arm.  I took the pin out, fluted it out a little, and drove it back in.  I didn't try to take the knob off, but does it make sense that the knob would come off with that pin removed?  Both of the plastic knobs on Oscar have broken off and I would like to replace them.  I might try to take a pin out and see if the knob comes off that way.  I have whole knob assembly, but if I can get out of doing the work that Zen has mentioned, I would like to do that.

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How to properly take off a pitman

« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2005, 08:21:07 AM »
We use to replace the whole latch . They use to be cheap enough that it wasn't worth the effort to try to repair the latch itself. Most of the time they were bent up enough that they would break if you tried to repair them. We replaced latches without removing the vent window frame from the door. Only the glass came out. Belive it or not, we re-install glass with a hammer. Tricks and more tricks. Takes about 20-30 min. per side if things go right and not in a big hurry.

Offline 71SuperBee

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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2005, 12:53:48 PM »
Does anyone  here know where I can get someone to press out my bushings out of my control arms and press new ones in? Also on a 71 super don't the strut housing separate from the spindle?? Also David the bushings on the sway bar look new but I am going to reaplace them. Also the ball joints well at least the side I have torn down is wobbly like heck.. So I am guessing that since the boot is broken I can replace the whole ball joint and get better handling along with the new bushings and struts... Anything I am missing here? Here is a pic of the steering damper bushing.. I think this is worn out...

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