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Glove box key question

« on: April 15, 2006, 08:57:07 PM »
The '74 Super has two ignition keys, neither of which fit the glove box lock. Don't know if there was ever a key specifically for the box or not. Today, I put some items in the box and closed it as I have always done. When I went to open it, the darned thing won't budge! The little release thingies move, but she is "locked" solid.

Before I take a hammer and chisel to it (my cell phone and wallet are inside) is there another way? I shot the key hole full of a penetrant but it didn't have any effect.  :cry:

Thanks,

Ron
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Glove box key question

« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2006, 08:44:38 AM »
74ron
This advice is not recommended because I don't have a glove box,  I just open the door and have access to the entire truck as far as I can reach..  

If it comes down to breaking and entering ,  you might be able to jigsaw  a small hole in the top of the glove storage box from inside the trunk.  The tricky part will be getting inside the truck,  After thinking  this over, you would have to cut the chrome hood handle off to get the trunk open.   This is not so hard and a second hand hood handle is like 3-5 bucks  and it's kind of fun breaking into a VW that way.  My Daughter and I cut the handle off  to my Super  after dark with a flashlight and  a hacksaw ,  You can wear stocking on your head to really get in to grand theft auto character.  SC

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Glove box key question

« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2006, 10:07:25 AM »
If I remember this right, The glove latch is not a auto-matic locker. You have to lock it everytime. If you have been using the box all along without a key, I would say your latch took a dump on you. Not unsual if you just happed to slam it a little to hard. I know your hood release is in the box, but If you can get your hood open you can take the glove box out by taking the screw loose on the strap,on top I think. Then you can deal with the latch.  I have pried the door open ( sweat sweat shudder) with a wide bladed screw driver. I put duct tape on the dash to try to keep from tearing up the paint on the dash. This little trick will finish off the latch and bend the recever a little , but you can bend it back. Don't  bite your tonque off if you try this method. Good Luck !!  You didn't hear any of this from me if you tear up something :lol:

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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2006, 10:11:59 AM »
Your car originally had two keys. One fit the ignition and door locks, the other fit the glove box.

There is a clip holding the lock in the glove box door.  Remove the clip and take the lock out.  Try to find a code on it.  The glove box door uses key blanks that were originally used on ignition switches on pre-66 Bugs.  It's a single sided key and the code should start with SC, SE, SG, SU, or SV followed by 2 or 3 digits.  If you can find the code, I can make you a key for it.  If you can't find the code, I can take the lock apart and make one.  If all else fails, I think I have one with a key . . . IF I can find it.

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2006, 10:45:54 AM »
:lol:  Yep, shudder/sweat/cringe were the operative words. Gall-dangit, the booger just locked on it's own. I did the drill-bit routine and still had to get physical to open the door. To compound my frustration, I snapped a tab off the screw-mounted keeper (Part #133.857.135) in the process and it appears that the lock set does not include this plastic part. I'll visit a few more parts sites and see if I can come up with one. Probably have the distinction of being the first redneck to ever break this part!   :(

If I had known I was dealing with a $59.95 part...............well heck, I'd have had to break in anyway!

Thanks for the pointers. Hey Zen, you ain't got the plastic part that the lock snaps into do ya? (133.857.135)??

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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2006, 11:27:11 AM »
I've got a complete super beetle dash . . . somewhere.  At least I did have one.  I've got a door or two as well . . . and a couple of extra locks.  Finding where I've stashed 'em is the problem.

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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2006, 08:19:48 PM »
Quote from: "Zen"
I've got a complete super beetle dash . . . somewhere.  At least I did have one.  I've got a door or two as well . . . and a couple of extra locks.  Finding where I've stashed 'em is the problem.


So we use the same storage and filing system. The "put it in a place where it cannot get lost" system.   :D

You'll be better keeping the dash complete. I'll get a lock and stuff from JBugs. Appreciate the thought though, thanks.

Ron

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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2006, 09:52:42 PM »
Well when I say complete, I didn't really mean "complete."  I mean, I haven't taken anything off of it since I pulled it out, but I pulled it out cause some low life destroyed it trying to remove the radio . . . which, by the way, was just sitting in the dash and not fastened down at all.   :evil:

Anyway, the dash itself is junk, but it's got a good glove box.  I'll try to dig it out sometime tomorrow.

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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2006, 08:00:23 AM »
That would be great! Just let me know.....

Took a real genius to destroy the dash to remove a free-standing radio. I suppose he was following the "Criminal's Guide to Removing Radios for Idiots"

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2006, 01:23:08 PM »
The criminals in the "triangle" aren't too swift.

One stole my air compressor a few years ago.  I talked to my neighbor because my daughter had seen someone running from his back yard and dropping throwing someing into his car the night before . . . she got the car's tag #.  Turns out the guy had broken into 6 or 7 cars and a couple of utility building the same night.  He had stashed all the stuff he stole, including my air compressor, in the bushes behind my neighbor's house.  My daughter must have spooked him when she pulled in the driveway and he never came back after the loot.  Every one of the cars he broke into, he did so by busting out the driver's side window with his bare fist.  The police were able to trace his steps by following the trail of blood . . . after every break-in, the trail got bigger.  They were able to tie all the recovered loot to the idiot's crime spree cause it all had his blood on it.  The funny part is, 3 of the cars he "broke" into were not even locked.   :lol:  

About a year and half ago, someone stole my mother-in-law's car from behind our house.  She was gone out of town and had left the car there for our oldest daughter to use while she was gone, so I didn't think anything about it when it wasn't there when I came home from work one day . . . until the next day when my daughter came over to get it.  After a week and a half, we had pretty much written it off figuring it had been stripped and chopped up by now . . . until my wife saw it going down Main Street one day.  She followed it and called the police.  It pulled into AutoZone and a young lady with two well dressed, well behaved kids got out and went in.  Well, it turns out that my mother-in-law had left the car unlocked and left the keys under the floor mat . . . and had the title in the glove box with her registration and insurance paperwork.  The guy that stole it destroyed the dash taking the radio out (must be something to do with the LaFayette, GA radio theaves code or something) then, he found the title and decided he could make a few bonus bucks and sold the car for $500 (Blue Book retail value was about $3000 at the time).  He signed the title took the cash and, I'm assuming, headed out to his crack dealer for his fix.  When the police started questioning the lady driving the car, she said her husband had just bought it from a man he worked with and that she had the title . . . Well, she did.  She had my mother-in-law's title with the seller portion on the back filled in with the idiots real name, correct address and SIGNATURE!  The whole situation would be funny, but it took almost a year for me to find the parts and get all the crap he tore up fixed, she lost her radio . . . and the LaFayette Police took over a year to complete their "investigation" and get the guy in court.   The real looser in the deal was the couple who made what they thought was a legitamate purchase and ended up being out $500.

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Glove box key question

« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2006, 08:26:16 AM »
AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH! I decided to bite-the-bullet, so to speak, and order the dadgummed $59.95 lock from Jbugs. Placed order, received confirmation ($68 with shipping) and resolved not to whine. Got a telephone call next day from Jbugs to inform me that the price had been increased to $85 plus shipping! Dayemn!

I will soon have a work-around for this unreasonably expensive lock. "Hay Y'all, wach iss".   :-)

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Glove box key question

« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2006, 09:50:38 AM »
I'm thinkin ebay. $85 for a lock?Hell no!

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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2006, 08:14:24 AM »
My sentiments exactly!   :lol:

I am in the mental design process now. Every piece of lacthing hardware I see, I try to work out an installation plan. Somethign will click eventually or I'll find a complete glovebox lid on e-bay.   8)

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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2006, 12:10:50 AM »
Is there somethin special about the make and model of this lock?Would a lock out of a 69 be the same?

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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2006, 07:29:03 AM »
It's a square design with side-squeeze release (makes a lot of sense doesn't it).  :-)

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