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Ghia won't go :(

« on: October 04, 2006, 09:30:45 PM »
I've had a string of problems with the Ghia recently.  The latest one has finally got me baffled.

A bit of background - one night I left the lights on, battery went dead.  Got a jump start, drove round for a bit then the car died on me, wouldn't start.  Charged battery up overnight, wouldn't hold charge.  Replaced battery, car started fine, decided to test the generator, got no volts out of it and battery was gradually going flat, so I replaced that too... everything was running fine again.

Last night I decided to check the back brakes as they'd been a bit weak recently.  I started the car, drove it forwards a few feet so I could jack up the back.  Engine was happy.  Spent a few hours sorting out the brakes, tried to start the engine again when I'd finished to take it for a drive, but it wouldn't start.

The starter runs fine but there's no hint of combustion.  Voltage across the coil is 10.6V, but there's no spark coming out of the centre terminal (tried to get it to spark to the crankcase).  Assuming the coil was bad, bought a new one, but exactly the same thing - no spark out of the centre terminal, although there's voltage across the + and - terminals.

The original problem with the battery & generator was that the generator was overcharging, and I think it had been for some time (recently replaced the battery twice and regulator once!) However this recent problem has beaten me!

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!!!

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Ghia won't go :(

« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2006, 10:29:39 PM »
Maybe a starter relay? i'd also check your grounds and see if with the ignition off if it's bleeding any power through any circuits on the fuse panel just for giggles. This sound like a job for the bigboys,don't worry i'm sure they'll be along soon.

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Ghia won't go :(

« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2006, 09:02:31 AM »
Matt,  Take a look at your points ,rotor,condenser.  You don't have a electronic Ing. (pointless) set up do you ?
       Make sure that your dist. didn't "jump" up and out of gear. You could  spin the rotor with your hand if this was the case.
       Have someone spin the engine over while you have your meter connected to the + sideof of the coil and make sure your voltage is there.
      I have seen Ing. switches lose all voltage when in the starter mode.
     I take it you have your Gen./Reg working OK now ?
     Keep me posted on what you find.

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Ghia won't go :(

« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2006, 11:22:14 AM »
No electronic ignition - olde style points for me!

The dizzy doesn't appear to have jumped - the rotor had a slight play in it but it wasn't possible to turn it.  I'll check it thoroughly tonight though.

Gen is working fine - well at least was before this latest incident (was getting 12.4v at the battery, rising to just over 14 when I revved the engine up)

Thanks for the help!

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Ghia won't go :(

« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2006, 02:11:40 PM »
Matt, The back and forth motion is normal. Check the wires on the points and the condencer inside the Dist. for grounding out to the body of the dist. Check rotor with your meter.

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Ghia won't go :(

« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2006, 07:03:36 PM »
Typical isn't it.. this time it took me 2 minutes to find the problem.

Took the dist cap off, turned the crank pulley to check the gap, but the points weren't opening.  Took the points out, noticed that the little doohicky on the points that gets knocked by the dist shaft has snapped off so the points were never opening.

Should be easily fixed!

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

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Ghia won't go :(

« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2006, 09:48:31 PM »
It works! Finally!!

So in the last week I've had to replace: generator, battery, coil, points

I've also had to adjust: carb, timing, back brakes

Someone remind me why we do this??!!

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Ghia won't go :(

« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2006, 01:33:50 AM »
Beats stealing hub caps Mate :lol:  :lol:

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Ghia won't go :(

« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2006, 10:19:38 AM »
That little Doohickey is called the Rub Block.  Were these points Bosch ?
  You don't see those blocks break off often. Pretty rare thing to happen.
  Be sure to put some kind of lube/grease on the block when you replace the points and of course you know you will have to reset your Ing. timing I would be tempted to put the original coil back on if it was a Bosch instead of a aftermarket if that was what you did.
  Why we do this ?  Like Zen said, " What fun would it be if all you did was  drive around with no issues" .   At least you can" fix it "
  Matt, Just think, You could be trying to drive a Clapped out MG-B with a good old Lucas( The Prince of Darkness") electrical system. :lol:  :lol:

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Ghia won't go :(

« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2006, 10:01:43 PM »
Not sure if the previous points were Bosch - they came from Mainly Foreign and they usually have decent stuff.  I've thrown them now so I can't check!

I've reset the timing and we're running pretty strong.  There's an occasional misfire (strobe was missing a flash here and there and I could hear the engine drop at the same time) but only at idle.  The new coil isn't Bosch (yeah yeah I know) and tbh I don't know if the old one was, I don't see any branding on it - it's just blue with a brown bottom.  New one is all black.

However, it's running now so I'm tempted not to try and fix what ain't broke.  I"ll keep the old coil in the car just in case ;)

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