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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2011, 08:13:10 AM »
I just popped my valve cover off and inspected the gasket. Sure enough there was a little pinch from where it was put on before, which is where it was still leaking oil. It's fixed now, but not before leaving a little spot in the Godfather's driveway :)

Careful Russ... The Godfather shot the last Type 4 that tried to leak oil in his driveway....



Oh.....


Wait....


It dropped a valve seat and died on it's own.. I remember now.....    ;D

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #61 on: September 08, 2011, 09:06:37 AM »
I just popped my valve cover off and inspected the gasket. Sure enough there was a little pinch from where it was put on before, which is where it was still leaking oil. It's fixed now, but not before leaving a little spot in the Godfather's driveway :)

Careful Russ... The Godfather shot the last Type 4 that tried to leak oil in his driveway....



Oh.....


Wait....


It dropped a valve seat and died on it's own.. I remember now.....    ;D
Thats OK Grasshopper. I needed the oil to mix up a gal. of 2-stroke fuel for my weed eater and oil up the hand pump on my jug of "Bus-Be-Gone" ;)

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2011, 09:11:23 AM »
^^^^ I will forever remember that aerosol can sitting on your tool box at work....  :D

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2011, 09:58:53 AM »
^^^^ I will forever remember that aerosol can sitting on your tool box at work....  :D


That can got a lot of attention as I recall  ;D ;D

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2011, 12:56:03 AM »
Got two new cork valve cover gaskets today. Pulled the covers and cleaned the sealing surfaces really good. Applied a thin film of Hylomar when I installed the gaskets as recommended by Ratwell. Then I reinstalled and placed paper towels under the rear of the bus. That was early today and I just checked and haven't seen any oil hit the paper towels. Also my heater boxes are dry and clean instead of coated in oil.

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #65 on: September 13, 2011, 10:34:00 PM »
Ok you guys, everything has been going really well. Until, that is...I took the bus for a trip to the store tonight. Upon returning home I was leaking oil all over again. Pulled the valve covers and as you can see on both sides, the gasket was pulled in a little, allowing oil to escape (all over my heater boxes and make a smoky mess btw).

What am I doing wrong here? Am I not getting a tight enough seal, maybe my valve covers are warped or my bales aren't tight enough?

Should I reattempt with these gaskets or throw them out since they are now out of shape? I have two more new ones. I'd like to get this fixed before camping this weekend.

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #66 on: September 14, 2011, 01:21:30 AM »
The old man told me that you should grab the long sides and flex them outwards. Just a light springy motion to get them to bow outward on the long side instead of bowing inward. I had the same problem on my beetle a while back and I couldn't figure out why the gasket was pushed in enough that oil was getting inside of the head sealing surface. Try giving them a slight tug.

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #67 on: September 14, 2011, 08:08:38 AM »
The old man told me that you should grab the long sides and flex them outwards. Just a light springy motion to get them to bow outward on the long side instead of bowing inward. I had the same problem on my beetle a while back and I couldn't figure out why the gasket was pushed in enough that oil was getting inside of the head sealing surface. Try giving them a slight tug.
Sometimes I would take a center punch and punch detents into the cover on the gasket surface (inside) This also works great on chrome Type-1 covers. You can also split Type-1 fuel line and slip it around the bales where they contact the cover if you think they are a little loose. Forget about trying to bend the bales.

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #68 on: September 14, 2011, 08:20:08 AM »
 I like the blue sealant for what it is, but here's the method I have used on valve covers for nearly 20 years and have NEVER.... check that again... NEVER had one leak....


I clean the inside of  the cover completely with brake clean (no oily residue when it evaporates) Let it dry completely.  Next, run a coating of Permatex 3H, or Indian Head Gasket sealant around the lip of the cover.  Main thing is you want something thin that will grab the gasket.... I have never been a big fan of the Gorilla snot doo-doo.... Put the gasket in the cover, pressing it in, so the sealant grabs the gasket well... Let it sit for a while.... Then, once it's stuck nicely, not before, smear a really thin coating of some kind of grease on the exposed part of the cork gasket.  I use the leftover red high-temp stuff i use for bearings for this part... Then, put them up on there, pop the bales back on and you're good. The grease helps them slide around a little so they don't pull away from the cover.   

The godfather used to roll his eyes and tell me to put them on bugs dry, but that never worked for me for some reason.... So I guess there was SOMETHING I managed not to pick up from him over all these years....  ;)


For what it's worth, I am seeing more leaks due to the gaskets pulling up, like yours in the pic  here lately... If i had to guess, maybe something to do with the material they are made from  which has changed over the years....

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #69 on: September 14, 2011, 10:09:24 AM »
I like the blue sealant for what it is, but here's the method I have used on valve covers for nearly 20 years and have NEVER.... check that again... NEVER had one leak....


I clean the inside of  the cover completely with brake clean (no oily residue when it evaporates) Let it dry completely.  Next, run a coating of Permatex 3H, or Indian Head Gasket sealant around the lip of the cover.  Main thing is you want something thin that will grab the gasket.... I have never been a big fan of the Gorilla snot doo-doo.... Put the gasket in the cover, pressing it in, so the sealant grabs the gasket well... Let it sit for a while.... Then, once it's stuck nicely, not before, smear a really thin coating of some kind of grease on the exposed part of the cork gasket.  I use the leftover red high-temp stuff i use for bearings for this part... Then, put them up on there, pop the bales back on and you're good. The grease helps them slide around a little so they don't pull away from the cover.   

The godfather used to roll his eyes and tell me to put them on bugs dry, but that never worked for me for some reason.... So I guess there was SOMETHING I managed not to pick up from him over all these years....  ;)


For what it's worth, I am seeing more leaks due to the gaskets pulling up, like yours in the pic  here lately... If i had to guess, maybe something to do with the material they are made from  which has changed over the years....
What ever it takes.  Some people can do it, some can't. I agree that material may be a factor.  It would have been OK if VW had put a decent lip on the cover on the Type-4. A lot of those gasket slipped while they were being installed. VW never did figure that one out. I used good old Permatex Avro for years
« Last Edit: September 14, 2011, 10:12:23 AM by Ret.Bugtech »

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #70 on: September 14, 2011, 01:50:24 PM »
Okay, I will try this again when I get home. I'm tired of leaks!

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #71 on: September 14, 2011, 03:06:26 PM »
Okay, I will try this again when I get home. I'm tired of leaks!


But.....


You own a bus...........    :-\



 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #72 on: September 14, 2011, 03:48:01 PM »
I can't fix ALL the leaks, just some!

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #73 on: September 14, 2011, 03:54:29 PM »
I can't fix ALL the leaks, just some!


Oh.  Okay....  ;D

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Re: Exhaust gaskets

« Reply #74 on: September 14, 2011, 11:01:35 PM »
Okay I pulled my valve covers again, cleaned them really good with brake parts cleaner, and used more blue stuff cause that's all I had. I put in two new cork gaskets. Drove it up and down the interstate to get it good and warm, and couldn't see any leaks. Then I drove it out to dinner and back and still don't see any leaks. I think I'm good for now, I hope anyways.

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