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Offline eakanator

  • Rome, Ga
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Carb question - single or duel.

« on: June 13, 2004, 08:14:32 PM »
My mind keeps wondering as I'm learnign about this bug, but was curious..First is this bug or the Solex 30pict-3 single port or duel?  2nd. I know Solex is what is on the car, I know Borsol had been discussed, not sure what size.Also 30pict-3 or is it 30/31?
Also I've seen on E-Bay a couple Holley Bug Spray 2 barrells. Are these for stock, modified, etc engines and does anyone even run a Holley? When I had the old BMW 2002, it came with a old Solex and really left a bad taste, replaced with a Weber, whic made a world of difference, would like to know if Weber makes a small replacement for the Vw or is it mainly Solex and Borosol?
 Thanks and sorry about so may questions.
It just very interesting .
 Ron

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2004, 10:01:59 PM »
HeyRon, If memory serves me. I belive the 30pict-3 Solex was the stock carb on the 1970 1600 single port engine. STAY AWAY from the Holly Bug Spray. This carb was standard stuff on Ford flat head V8s in the late `30s  to 53. Never could get one of these to work right no matter how we jetted it. I understand how you felt about the 2 barrel solex on your BMW. This is just about the same carb that came on the early VW Rabbits and Dashers and the Audi Fox. ROTTEN. I`m not a real big fan of 2 barrel progressive carbs, but the Weber seems to be a nice rig for slightly modified type 1`s and great for the vans with the type 4 engines.
   Are you asking me if your engine is a dual or single port ? Look at your intake. If your intake has rubber boots and Alum.end castings down to the heads. Its a dual port. One piece,It`s a single port. What carb is on your engine?

Offline eakanator

  • Rome, Ga
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Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2004, 10:27:58 PM »
Hi David,
The Solex 30PICT-3 is on this 70 bug and thanks, I was  asking whether the 1600 on this bug was single or duel. Thanks for the advice on the carbs. Just seems when I looking at "stuff", it alway refers to single port or duel..I check tomorrow. May be stupid question and pros or cons to duel vs single or was this a change in years.  
So would  the Borosol the recommended carb for a stock engine? Not sure how they size it, IE, 30Pict, 30/31..
Thanks
Ron

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2004, 11:40:03 PM »
Hi Ron, If your carb is intact and not worn "plumb" out, I would much rather rebuild that one than buy the Brosol. The pict 30-3 always worked for me . At least it`s an orig German Solex and they seem to rebuild nicely.If its a piece "junk", go with the 30/31 with no adapter plate.There are a few "tricks" even on the PICT30-3 that you need to know if you rebuild that one. Let me know  ???

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2004, 12:11:19 AM »
Hey ,I wasn`t finished yet.  Single port VS Duel port ??
       I`m  kind of partial to single ports when stock. Less problems with carbs,intake leaks,cracking end castings. The single port always seem to have more " bottom end torque" while the duel port "top end" speed was a tad faster. The Duel Port showed up in the 1971 model year "Beetle" . The 1600 single port first appeared in 1968 thru 1970 in the type 2.  The 1970 "Beetle" (U.S.spec.) was the only VW type-1 with the 1600 single port. I had a new `70 Bug that would give ANY stock duel port a fit on the interstate. AARRGG!! :angry:

Offline eakanator

  • Rome, Ga
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Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2004, 07:58:53 AM »
Thanks on both accounts..Didn't get a chance to look, but as I was reading last night, the 1970 was a single port..Other thing found out was that it is the 57hp instead of the 60hp which I guess came out it late 1970.
Will need to re-build this carb, I haven't got out on the main road yet, but just driving up and down our street, feels like there is a flat spot when I give it the gas and change gears, of course it's been 15 years since it's been drove and the throat of the carb looks nasty..
Ron

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2004, 08:55:24 AM »
Hi Ron, I`m sure you will need to rebuild It. Improper timing will also cause the "lag".  No rocket science here ,but you need to know a few things thats not common knowlege.  I would be happy to do the job for you If you wish. You could bring the carb to the meeting this Friday along with a carb kit or I could walk you through it. This might save you some time and allow you to keep your sanity.

Offline eakanator

  • Rome, Ga
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Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2004, 09:19:31 AM »
Would love to take you up on that.. I know we( me & Wife(Rebecca) are planning the to attend the bug show in Alpharetta this weekend. Dad's in Erlanger, planning on riding to see him and mom his yard Sunday(they live in Hixson). I know we would love to come up Friday evening and meet everyone, as a matter of afact, just spoke to Rebecca, We will try to ride up. When I bring a kit, is this something you would take back with you? Would I also need to bring some type of mineral sprits?  I will get hold of our foreign auto parts place here and see if he has a kit.
Thanks
Ron

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2004, 09:38:42 AM »
Ron, If you have a problem getting a kit ,I can buy one here with no problem. I have some real carb cleaner  and air to blow things out. Where do you call home ?  I hope your Dad will be OK.

Offline eakanator

  • Rome, Ga
  • Joined: Apr 2004
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Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2004, 09:53:29 AM »
I'm in Rome,Ga, right off Hwy 27.  It takes about an hour to get to at least East Ridge, not sure how the Friday evening I-75 traffic will be, but we'll get through it..Hopefully Dad will be alright, was suppose to come home over the weekend, but now looks like they are going to put in a pace maker, we'll find out today. I'll call in a bit and see if the parts store carries the kits.. Where are you?
ron

Offline eakanator

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Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2004, 10:35:06 AM »
Parts store said they do have a re-build kit for the 30PICT-3, said it runs around $15. I can get it and then we can go from there, if that sound good.
Thanks
Ron

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2004, 10:55:23 AM »
Ron, I`m in  Chattanooga on the East side about 1 1/2 miles off I-75N ( East Brainerd Rd exit)

Offline eakanator

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Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2004, 11:12:46 AM »
David,
Picked up the carb re-build kit yesterday, will try to get the carb off before Friday and bring it with us Friday evening. Then we can discuss or let you take it, what ever you think is best.
Thanks
Ron

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2004, 02:15:11 PM »
Ron, looking forward to it. Remember this "gathering" is at the Sonic Drive In  not at Shoneys

Offline eakanator

  • Rome, Ga
  • Joined: Apr 2004
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Carb question - single or duel.

« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2004, 02:36:58 PM »
Man, I'm glad you said that, Me & Rebecca would have been sitting a Shoney's by ourselves.  
Now, The Sonic is in East Ridge?

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