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Offline Roadkill

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Bug too Bus swap stupid questions.

« on: June 06, 2009, 08:29:49 PM »
Ok here goes. as every one knows i have had the bug up for sale for a while. I have had a few ask about it and such. However most have either not called back or want it for less than my total earning a month at the restaurant.

Here are my questions : Can the great tires and wheels i have on the bug be used on the van. I know the bug is 4 lug and the Bus is 5 lug. Also the tires are 15 on the bug and 14 on the Bus. The Bus weight is also a problem for the bug tires most likely. Also is there any one out there that would be into taking the engine from the bug and putting it in the 76 Bus. Then all i would need is a transmission for the bus.
 
After all that i would just sell the bug minus the engine for about $2500 or if they got it running ( the Bus ) i might just give them the Bug. I would have to see.Tell me what you think and if any of this rambling can be done.

Offline Russ

Bug too Bus swap stupid questions.

« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2009, 12:35:47 AM »
The bus needs light truck tires with reinforced sidewalls and a load range of at least C (and preferably D). Putting improperly rated passenger tires on there will make handling even worse and dangerous. If you need a good set of tires, I recommend Continentals (Vanco 2 or Vanco 8 ). They are properly rated, reasonably priced and also German OEM tires for VW.

Offline Roadkill

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Bug too Bus swap stupid questions.

« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2009, 11:13:19 AM »
I thought as much on the tires from what i have read here in the forums. Thanks for the tire name to look for. As for the bug sale and getting things done on the bus i am like a lion watching his prey. I can see what i need and want, but it takes a long time to get it. I can be very impatiant when it comes to getting things done. If i know what needs to be done i get it done and if i am held off from doing it i get frustrated...........  :x

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Bug too Bus swap stupid questions.

« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2009, 11:34:09 AM »
What !!!      No to the tire thing.  You can't install a engine until you have a transmission installed.  If you use the Bug engine you have to either make or buy new engine tin to close up the big gap around the engine and body.
    I believe  Justin bought the tin thats in his Bus.
   I can't figure out the logic for tearing up your Bug to make a stripped out van to run and then try to sell them both.   It still will cost you more money to get the van to where you can drive it safely or at all. I may be wrong here ,but I don't believe you can get $2,500 for a '69 Bug that doesn't have an engine.  Good luck though.

Offline Roadkill

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Bug too Bus swap stupid questions.

« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2009, 01:30:44 PM »
I was 99% sure that the tires could not be used but no harm in asking. As for the engine tins i would just buy the tins needed for the engine compartment. The bus it self is not striped down. Every thing is here but the engine and transmission. All the gauges wireing etc. That is why i was checking on swaping the engine and then just giving the bug to whom ever could do the work for me for installing the engine and getting me the trans for the bus. Or see what it would be worth after the engine was removed.I figure a good bug minus just the engine would be a good trade for the bus work. But i do think about this stuff alot at work or when i am going to sleep so my mind might be messing with me........ :lol:

Offline Bugnut

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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2009, 02:14:16 PM »
The bus trans will be exspensive and rail guys love em so good luck on that.
The tins that they are talkin about aint cheap either ask Justin.
Your better off sellin the bug for a decent price and starting over with the bus...just my 2 cents. The bug could fund the bus more or less. :?

Offline Roadkill

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Bug too Bus swap stupid questions.

« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2009, 02:59:05 PM »
Thanks for the info scott. I had a good feeling that the trans and tins would not be cheap in any form or fashion..As for selling the bug, i have had a number of inquieries but then nothing so like before i will most likely just keep the bug ( unless something chainges ) and some money shows up for it. As for the bus i will continue to do what i can with what i have and can figure out through the samba guides. If not the bus will just sit behind the house.

Offline Zen

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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2009, 07:00:15 PM »
I'm seeing more and more type 1 powered buses around.  Type 4 engines are getting more expensive every day and the top of the line versions (such as a Jake Raby built engine) can cost more than a good bus is worth.

At Bug-A-Paluza this year, we probably had 6 or 7 late bays with type 1 engines.  Some had the fiberglass adaptor for the engine bay, some had a bay modification like the one I have in Homer (all the sheet metal is cut out from between the frame rails and a flat sheet rivited in with a type 1 engine bay shape cut out) and a couple just left the big gap opened around the engine.  The best way is to use the fiberglass piece.  Cutting out the sheet metal and putting a flat piece in is cheaper, but kind'a makes it hard to go back a type 4 later.  Leaving the big gap around the engine is asking for it run hot.

I'd say the determining factor is the transaxle.  If you can find a good one cheap, it's worth buying the fiberglass piece and throwing a type 1 in it.  Finding a good late bay tranny cheap isn't easy to do . . . every now and then you can find a complete bus with no engine and rusted beyond hope but still sporting a good transaxle and get the whole thing cheap . . . but like bugnut said, you gotta beat the rail buggy guys to it.

Offline Roadkill

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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2009, 09:34:57 PM »
thats a lot to think about Zen. But the fiberglass piece sounds the best way to go as i am going to put a type 1 in it eventually. I do have a possible engine in sight to buy but i will have to wait till the owner decides to chainge to his new one. He told me that i could get his type 1 then. It is in great running shape so there should be little work except installing it.

To get the trans i may need to go to Alabama and talk to a couple guys down there that have tons of vw stuff. They like to hord it but can be talked out of stuff from time to time.

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