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Offline lonnie1952

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another problem with the 68

« on: March 04, 2009, 08:39:02 PM »
Ok guys I am in the dark here Completely
The 68 I just got has the front Lowered.
it is a beam axle WITHOUT adjustors. I called the Kid I got it from and he told me he just loosened up the torsion bar set screws to lower it.
Is this safe ?
I wish to bring it back to stock ride height
Can I do this without tearing the beam apart ?
I see in the Bentley manual the Torsion springs have an Indentation the set screw sets in.
Would this front end be safe until I can rebuild the beam completely ?

HELP.....Some people should take up golf...Not mess with cars    :roll:

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Offline certdubtech

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another problem with the 68

« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2009, 08:46:31 PM »
Ummm.... not sounding too safe to me, just because i can't figure out what the heck he has done... that to me equals not safe...
if he loosened the set screws, turned the leaves and then just snugged them back down, there would be nothing to keep them from slipping and dropping...like you said, they have indentions cut into the leaves to lock the position...
Perhaps a bit more clarification is needed..

Offline lonnie1952

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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2009, 09:02:45 PM »
Quote from: "certdubtech"
Ummm.... not sounding too safe to me, just because i can't figure out what the heck he has done... that to me equals not safe...
if he loosened the set screws, turned the leaves and then just snugged them back down, there would be nothing to keep them from slipping and dropping...like you said, they have indentions cut into the leaves to lock the position...
Perhaps a bit more clarification is needed..


Boy..Not sure I really have anymore info....he loosened the lock nut..and apparently loosened the set screw....I would guess put weight on the front wheels and tightened the set screw down...I can see that the Allen bolt(set screw) is screwed almost all the way in.
he told me all I had to do was jack up the car and turn the lock screw OUT
I just don't trust this unless someone can shed some light. Maybe he is Innovative..Maybe he is Just Unsafe and Mickey Mouse
The lack of money should never make you unsafe....Leave it stock if you cannot afford to do it right. :roll:
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Offline travisyoung

another problem with the 68

« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2009, 09:14:30 PM »
I'm with rick,  if the set screw is in that is correct,  any attempt to lower the car by loosening the set screw sounds crazy.  You sould lift the front of the car,  loosen the retaining bolt make sure the set screw is tighened all the way with a 8mm allen and then tighten the lock bolt down.

Offline lonnie1952

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another problem with the 68

« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2009, 09:16:54 PM »
Quote from: "travisyoung"
I'm with rick,  if the set screw is in that is correct,  any attempt to lower the car by loosening the set screw sounds crazy.  You sould lift the front of the car,  loosen the retaining bolt make sure the set screw is tighened all the way with a 8mm allen and then tighten the lock bolt down.


You really think that is all I have to do ?
If I raise the front end the torsion bars will re-align properly ?
I will try it as soon as i get the new trans in.
thank you

Offline certdubtech

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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2009, 09:18:46 PM »
in theory, you might be able to just work the arm back and forth as you set the screw into place,.... in theory....
 8)

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2009, 08:38:45 AM »
Hmmmm,  I would like to see that done.  Sounds "Mickey Mouse".  Dang you live Calif., There has to be 8 Zillion VW clubs around there. I sure would find somebody to look at what you have before you get hurt.

Offline Anthony

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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 01:46:58 PM »
If you look at the end-on view of the torsion springs they're square. The divot for the set screw is in one side of the square (forget for a minute that we're talking several leaves, okay?) If you back out the set screws entirely, the springs are free to rotate in the beam, so it sounds like he let them rotate around a quarter turn or so until the set screw tightened down past the corner of the "square", although that seems like quite a bit of drop! My F Vee has a similar setup, but the bumper horns had to be cut off to make it work! At any rate there shouldn't be a problem if you raise the car and loosen the screws to allow it to drop back into place. Again, looking at the end-on view you see the "stack" of torsion springs. The divots for the grub screws are on the "side" of the "stack", so you want that lining up with the set screws. I don't envy you doing this on a sedan with a body! I'm used to everything just hanging out in the breeze.

Offline lonnie1952

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another problem with the 68

« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2009, 07:58:32 PM »
Quote from: "Anthony"
If you look at the end-on view of the torsion springs they're square. The divot for the set screw is in one side of the square (forget for a minute that we're talking several leaves, okay?) If you back out the set screws entirely, the springs are free to rotate in the beam, so it sounds like he let them rotate around a quarter turn or so until the set screw tightened down past the corner of the "square", although that seems like quite a bit of drop! My F Vee has a similar setup, but the bumper horns had to be cut off to make it work! At any rate there shouldn't be a problem if you raise the car and loosen the screws to allow it to drop back into place. Again, looking at the end-on view you see the "stack" of torsion springs. The divots for the grub screws are on the "side" of the "stack", so you want that lining up with the set screws. I don't envy you doing this on a sedan with a body! I'm used to everything just hanging out in the breeze.


Is there Any Danger of leaving it this way for a few weeks?
I m running out of time
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