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Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2007, 03:17:26 PM »
Joe , Like the new sig.  I thought it was a vidio of the "Harsh Winter VW Club"  dancing around trying to stay warm. You probley should feed them. They look a little lean. :(

manikmike

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« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2007, 08:35:50 PM »
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it is open games if your questions have been answered


Fair Enough... bah humbug to the White Sox tho!

Cheers, Mike
79 Rivi
Awaiting Type2 Heart Transplant

manikmike

Engine out, might as well spend more moolah!

« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2007, 10:33:21 PM »
Warning:  The following message contains adult language/ situations and crude/ vulgar language.  Hide the children and draw the blinds.

Loyal Followers (not!) of my previous post on lifters may understand my decision

Having not improved the compression in the cylinders via hydraulic lifter adjustment, and seeing some increase when adding oil to the cylinder and testing again, then factoring in the implications of the GEX, then having at least one perhaps more mind-clearing beer (?!)

While fondling my meter (compression meter that is) and Pondering Deeply the future of the Rivi's Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Groovyness, I thusly therefore emerged from my meditation determined- NAY-  resolute to end the Evil Fuckery (my Fav new phrase) of the Decadent GEX wholly and with extreme prejudice- and ordered a Boston Bob 2.0

(And there was much rejoicing)

(Yay)

That said, and clutch aside (since that's a crystal choice), any other suggestions on what I should attack/ inspect/ replace while the engine is out?

Any feeling about replacing the tranny fluid with synth, or suggestions on seal replacement?  It leaks, and maybe has blown one.  Seal, that is.

Cheers Mates!  
Mike
79 Rivi
2.0 FI

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2007, 10:32:26 AM »
Ah !!  The Brain cells that have remained must have been the proper ones. I don't know Boston Bob but you must have faith in his mech. prowness so press on.  The new engine would get a new clutch/pressure plate and T.O. brg without hesitation. Sometime you just cannot tell by looking at one if it would last. Replace it and be done with it.
     Where is the tranny leaking ?  You have really  only 4 seals that YOU can replace. 2 side cover seals ( behind the CV joint flanges) You may or may not have a seal in the nose cone where the shift lever is and the seal behind the T.O. brg. where the input shaft goes in the case. If you have leaks where the case is put together, You should get some help at that point. You can get into big trouble if you don't have some experence in that area. You can drop the engine and the tranny together as one unit if you have the proper good jacks. Just don't forget the 2 tranny bolts that hold the tranny to the body(on top of the bell housing).
     I haven't used Synth. but I know a lot of folks that have with no problems. Your choice I suppose.
     Let the games begin !!

   Oh , You can replace the gasket between the bell housing and the main case without any problems.

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« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2007, 10:38:37 AM »
i thought you were going to go for the world record on the GEX engine!

I understand your choice... i wouldnt want to drive that anywhere... but i was really curious as to how far it would go...

what are you going to do with the GEX?

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« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2007, 12:39:45 PM »
i think he should bury the gex and anymore he can find that that dreadfull company built.  Do I smeel the startings of another help with slow starter thread???? :lol:

manikmike

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« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2007, 10:29:25 PM »
Hiya!

Been playing in New England, thanks for the responses.

GEX: well, it's 3K+ miles on it, and fired right up tonight after sitting for 10days... not a World Record perhaps, so hold the call to Guinness, but may be a record in some counties...  Especially given the compression on one cylinder of 60lbs!  It has a few more trips about the state;  St. Augustine camp out with the Full Moon Bus Club, several runs to Lady Lake and Crescentl Beach, and a few months before the replacement heart arrives... so I'll rack up another 1K miles at least.  I'd consider burying the carcass if I don't get the core charge for it- but then, that act seems to offer more respect that the GEX might be deserving of... death by homemade explosives might be more suiting.

Clutch:  Will do, natch might as well snap in a new TO bearing as you mentioned, only makes sense.  Any preferences to vendors/ manufacturers for these parts?

Tranny: Since it's covered in goo, I'll replace whatever I can without difficulty while it's out.   Might as well repack the CVs while I'm at it since they'll be down.  Tranny feels strong, just want to clean it up.

Wow, I'm recalling in my peabrain the space and time I needed to do an engine swap in my Vanagon... and that was without doing the clutch or mucking with the transmission- this is going to be a big effort!

New Question:  Stock exhaust seems restrictive and is rumored to be poopy- any thoughts on solid performance headers/ exhaust for the rebuilt, or thoughts to debunk that Myth? I don't want any crazy Monza crap, just something less restrictive and performance proven.  And I want the ladies to dig my machine when it shakes its tailfeather (Mike promptly receives a slap to side of head from his Woman).

Hasta La Pasta, mike

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« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2007, 06:49:58 AM »
Exhaust A-1 sidewinder comes to mind if your pockets are deep.

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2007, 09:49:49 AM »
Clutch !     Can we say Sach and maybe Lux ?  Sach is my first choice for all including the T.O.    Both brands are OEM.   Be sure to check the input shaft seal behind the T.O. brg.    If you have to look at for 30 sec. to deside if its seeping, replace it.  Remember its a long way back in and does nasty things to your new clutch.
      Exhaust ?  There are a lot of them out there. You might talk to some other folks that drive these things for their input on whats good .
      The bottom line is ,stay way back from the cheap ones unless you have a "thing" about remanfacturing the damn thing to get it mounted. A whole new volabulary can be created in a instant from such folly :lol:

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« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2007, 11:41:04 AM »
The new Empi is not your dad's Empi.  I had a "heckuva" time getting an Empi exhaust to fit my '78 bus.  It did finally fit, but it looked like they looked at the heater box set up from 20 feet away and then made the exhaust to "fit".

If you still have the heater boxes from a '79 on your bus (it is a '79, isn't it?) the two-tip Monza GT style exhaust bolts on rather nicely.
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC%2DD%2D2072

Then there is the "stock" replacement for '72-'74 that bolts onto a '79 as well.  http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=071251053EK

Gehackt

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« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2007, 08:49:31 PM »
I say save that engine for the BAP10 and have an engine blow contest, sell raffle tickets on how long it will take to blow, and make it a 50/50

manikmike

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« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2007, 12:12:04 AM »
Hmm...

(opens  Monk Madness Ale, big sip; a few more for good measure)

67 bugnut:  the Exhaust A-1 sidewinder is a Serrano product yes?  Methinks they don't create for my 79 2.0L; I'll check.   Pockets are concave (better than convex), but not as deep as Paris Hilton's utter lack of talent/ intelligence/ beauty. I hope to find something less restrictive than stock, but nearly stock in appearance.  I like to try to keep things as original in appearance as possible.
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Ret.Bugtech:  
1) Do I need special tools for the tranny seals you suggested?

2) Uh... if there is no "nosecone seal" behind the T.O. bearing, should I add one?

3) Yea, and then spaketh thou, and thou didst sayeth "Oh , You can replace the gasket between the bell housing and the main case without any problems" with glee, and there was much rejoicing (Yea)...  so then there are 5 gaskets I can replace- any special (and I don't mean special like bus I took in grade school) tools needed for that bugger?

I've no idea where it be leaking from; I'll be "cleaning it" in the next few weeks to try to track the problem.

Gehackt, VWGirl:   I'd volunteer to start a pool if I could use a percentage of the contributions to pay for the transfer parts!  Regardless, I like ideas1

GoBusGo:  I do have the orig (and smashingly revamped) heater boxes... you runnning either of these enough to vouch for item?

Offline Ret.Bugtech

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« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2007, 11:56:04 AM »
Mike, You are talking about two diff. seals. One seal is behind the T.O. brg. The other one is on the gear selector shaft where your shift coupler is . You may or may not have this seal. That one is easy to see because it is brass colored and is pressed into the nose cone.
    They make a "seal yanker" but have used a screw driver to pry the other seals out,BUT be very careful and not Muck up things in the process. Just use common sence when you leaning on them.
    Oh yeah, When you take the TO brg off you may find a steel sleeve bolted on the case with 3 bolts . Take the sleeve off and you will find the input shaft seal. The TO brg rides on that sleeve also ,so throw a little grease on it when you put it back together.
    common hand tools other than the "seal Yanker" if you want buy one.
  A good parts store may have one. Its just a flat bar with a crazy looking hook on one end. Fairly cheap.
     Be sure to locate all your replacement seals before you start ripping
 things apart.

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« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2007, 03:19:18 PM »
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GoBusGo: I do have the orig (and smashingly revamped) heater boxes... you runnning either of these enough to vouch for item?


I have the Empi lookalike GT two-tip style on my '79 (this one...http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC%2DD%2D2072).
  I love the sound it makes.  I bought it used for $50 3 years ago, had it sandblasted and painted, re-welded twice, and it is ready for another weld job.  I am going to use it until I can't fix it anymore. :lol:

I have three used '75-'78 header exhausts lined up for when the one on my '78 poops out.  That one is this one...http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D071%2D251%2D053%2DPS

manikmike

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« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2007, 08:19:58 AM »
Ret.bugtech:   ok thanks for clarification.  I'vealready begun accumulating parts for the switch (Mama didn't raise no fool!)  Cheers!

Gobusgo:  Cool looking pipes... thanks for the links.

I checked me underside closely last night, and it turns out my towing hitch is not only bolted on well, but welded also.  So, I'll have to consider that when looking at what fits.  Did you see any performance improvement with the dual tip?

Cheers, Mike
79 Rivi 2.0L FI

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