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Offline Bugnut

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« on: September 02, 2006, 04:22:40 PM »
Alright I'm lettin the cat outta the bag so to speak. I have access to a 52 split that could become mine this winter. The body is good and complete as far as I know as well as the interior. I know that these things are like apples and oranges to my 67. So  what kinda mess I'm I gettin into?
The car is coming from Arizona so I dont think rust will be an issue. It was stored in an old shed in the desert. It's a 2 owner car that has been parked for the better part of it's life.the motor turns but hasn't ran in ages.
By 2 owner I mean an army buddy purshased it from the original owner for me. I'm hoping for an easy resto job nothin fancy. Just stock..bone stock if possible.I figure if the engine works I'll pull it just to keep from hurting it. So the motor would be the only upgrade. Does the club have the contacts for me to pull off a project like this? Or am I dreaming?

I need leads on someone that can strip it to metal and a rough guess on pricing, painters I have. Interior will be sweat and I have that covered.
Might need a chrome guy and powder coater.

Lets here yalls thoughts on this one.And no  "don't do it ,give that pile of crap to me wont' work!"

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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2006, 07:09:05 PM »
Thats great !!!   If you do anything other than what it is suppose to be including the engine, You will be shot on sight and I will be the trigger man. I hope you know what you are getting.

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2006, 10:01:00 PM »
so your sayin I should do it up Cali style and with a huge stereo as well?Do 24 inch rims fit? :lol:

No I have no clue that's why I am asking first. Its a new thing I'm tryin out. You know asking someone who might know before taking a bite of something I have no clue about. Doesn't mean I'll actually do as I'm told but I will listen. :D

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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2006, 10:07:01 PM »
And I'm joking about modifications. The only reason I would switch the tranny and engine is because as I understand it they are near impossible to find parts for.I'll get em built over time but they will stay in a crate when done. The car is originally black and will stay that way. The interior is pretty much turned to dust but my friend says whats left of it looks red? I didn't think red was an option for that year?But again I'm already having trouble figuring out what is and isnt stansard for it.

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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2006, 10:34:18 PM »
Is this car a standard or Deluxe( chrome around windows and other places)
   I'll check my factory books and see if they go back that far for colors and other stuff. The info is out there so you will be hard pressed to fool anyone. You need to contact Tim Hays in Ashville N.C. He was the Guy with the green "51 at BP-8

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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2006, 02:04:48 PM »
I beleive it to have trim so..deluxe? It's not  aproject that will get done over night I want to insure that everything is perfect and as detailed as possible.The most it will get driven is maybe a cruise in.

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2006, 01:33:07 AM »
Quote from: "67bugnut"
The most it will get driven is maybe a cruise in.


Just my opinion here . . . If it were me, and I planned on driving it anywhere, I'd build the engine back stock and a correct as possible, and put it back in the car, not in a crate for safe keeping.  If you "save" the engine for the future and put a more modern engine it . . . you're going to have more power than it was designed for . . . and if you're driving, you would really need to upgrade the brakes to match the new HP . . . one thing will lead to another and then next thing you know RetBugtech will be shooting at you.   8)  I'll probably be there handing him the ammo.   :lol:

Personally, when it comes to any of the early and/or rare VWs, I'm 100% in favor of keeping them as close to the way the left the factory as possible.  And as much as I love to see folks driving them, I don't even mind seeing them being hauled around in enclosed trailers.

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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2006, 12:05:34 AM »
If David's pulling the trigger, and Zen's feeding him the ammo, the only course of action left for me is...to make the run to the store for more ammo!
Granted, I am guilty of rather HEAVILY modifying my '67.  I will defend this by saying that my '67 is a rusty pile of turds...loosely held together by fiberglass, filler, and some more rust.   There are a lot of really nice, straight cars out there that are worthy of a much better fate.  I have the best of both worlds.  A '67 bug that was rough on the eyes (and became worse the deeper i dug into it), but the perfect base for a custom job (every panel to be modified was rusted or beat up anyway... Then I have my '64.  The pans and rockers were a little rusty, so I'll replace those.  The hood was replaced when the original owner, who I bought the car from,  drove the little fella into his workbench in his garage the first winter he had the car.  Other than that, the car was completely original, is not missing the first thing, straight, has shiny paint under ever interior panel and carpet, was running with the original 6 volt 40-horse engine, and every electrical item on the car works....The stereo kicks ass... all AM and all one speaker of it.  That car has been apart for 8 years, and sits on jack stands in the garage.  I'll finish it, but don't rush me...I won't listen.  The '67 had more twist-style electrical connectors in it than a 30-year old government housing complex....That car won't be the factory colors, inside or out, sits now only a few inches off the ground, and will be finished off in true "Rat Rod" style...what can I say, I'm just not into the Ford or Chevy thing.
A '52 is a much more rare bird than either of my two toys.  I'm glad to hear that the intentions are noble and, for the record, Scott, I really think he's serious about that one...David might very well kill you if you deviate from this...
I must admit, I'm a purist first and foremost when it comes to the old stuff.  When I pick up an old issue of Hot VWs, flip to the middle of the book, and see a split window beetle with a chopped roof and Cragar mag wheels in the mandatory 5-bolt Chevy bolt pattern poking out from the fender lines, I cringe.  I keep having to tell myself "It's ok...they thought that there was no such thing as too much polyester,too...especially if it's 1.) green and 2.) in the form of a leisure suit....
We can save the 24 inch rims for my '84 GTI....or maybe the Dasher, Yeah, now THAT would rock.
Just kidding, we're not putting those damned things on anything I own...No it would not be a funny Halloween prank, either.
Can you say "Hey, Xzibit, PIMP MY RIDE"

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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2006, 12:15:05 AM »
no to be pimpin my ride yo! Now go to sleep it's a hobby remember? On obsessed folks are awake right now. :lol:  The 52 will be a long project it's gotta be perfect no short cuts. I'll find another bug thats hurtin and mismatched for crazy stuff. There's a funky peach 67 in Clevland if anyones interested. I'm thinkin on it,maybe I dunno.

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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2006, 01:09:22 AM »
You're probably right...besides, I couldn't afford the rims anyhow.  Not to mention the mandatory24 flatscreen televisions you're supposed to mount in every awkward location on the vehicle.
Come to think of it...Where would you put one that wouldn't be awkward on a beetle?
Oh,well.
Going to bed now, Really.
Yep, too much coffee today.

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« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2006, 01:24:26 PM »
I'd like to see the after episode 2 months later when they get robbed for their pimp ride. If they did that to my car I'd uninstall every electronic thing in it. Put the flat screen in my house along with the frapacino machine,hairdryer,coffee maker, and fish tank. Then the car would be on e-bay. That show is getting progresivly worse with every car. I thought the guy sucked as a rapper now I wished he would make a hit album so they will stop the show. You can custimize a car without it being too tacky to drive. I dont agree with ever car they've done but overhaulin is much nicer to your car and probably retains some value. Oh well enough ranting. :lol:

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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2006, 11:48:42 PM »
I agree on all points but one....
I think the more appropriate theme for the return to the ride episode should be in the form of a Vo-Tech instructional video that demonstrates what happens when you use that much Bondo on any car.
I do kind of feel bad for Boyd Coddington, in a way.  If you watch the background of Chip Foose's "A-Team", several of those talented young lads came from the Coddington crew, which is now almost non-existant.

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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2006, 12:56:22 PM »
Boyd is a #@$@#$#@! I think what goes around comes around. If you place your prioritys on the money and forget about what got you started in the first place. Seems he takes the fun out of it.
His charming charecter doesn't help either. I've met him a few times back in the early 90's. He's a pretty arrogant,abrasive type guy. And thats g rated for this site.

On the other hand,Foose seems alot easier to get along with and does alot of favors for folks. That makes him seem to be a more likable guy.
His guys seem happy to work there butt off. i guess a pleasent work enviroment and not getting followed around and fussed at by a guy in tourist shirts helps. :lol:

Bottom line I don't feel sorry for him anymore than I would for anyone else like him.

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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2006, 01:29:46 AM »
I guess I should clarify...what I meant was to say that I feel sorry for him in the manner of the man has got to realize his people can't stand him.  I firmly believe that if the man showed a bit of respect towards his workers, he wouldn't be in the constant bind he seems to be in.  It is easier to build custom cars if you can actually maintain an employee base.  Also, I find the instances where he tries to help and ends up screwing something up or just in the way to be rather amusing.
And you do bring up a really good point....What IS up with those godforsaken Tropical print shirts?  I think they're leftovers from The Beachboys Tour collection.
You speak of that big name "celebrity" encounter.  I used to be a sales rep. for Mac tools.  While attending the big annual tool fairs for new products, I got to meet a lot of big names from the racing world.  John Force, who is every bit as obnoxious in person as he is on TV, Richard Petty, the mild mannered, soft-spoken knig of NASCAR,  Doug Kalitta, who reminds me of Molly Shannon's character "Mary Catherine Gallagher" from SNL.  He's real twitchy and nervous.  Ray Evernham, Joe Gibbs were nice, Robert Yates acted like he'd rather be at the dentist office, his son, Doug Yates was pretty cool.  The coolest one by far was Don "The Snake" Prudehome (sp?)  He'd just be standing around, talking to anyone, signing an autograph, posing for a picture.  I really like the guys who don't forget that without these folks, they would not be Famous.  I believe Boyd has forgotten.  It is hard to root for the guy just because of his name...especially since he doesn't have anything to do with the actual consruction of the cars anymore.

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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2006, 01:36:57 AM »
Thats all food for thought.  One big thing I'm sure you can understand is the insane work hours that he pushes out of his guys. I saw an episode of the making of Overhaulin and the a team that volunteers for the build gets the next week off after the insane work week. If you keep somebody at work that long it tends to be bad for their real life.If your not happy at home it's hard to be top notch at work. And I have no idea how that guy got all those whacky shirts but he must have 4000 of them.

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