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Offline ragtopjames

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1971 Squareback help

« on: March 11, 2012, 07:59:34 PM »
We just bought a 71 squareback . Initially it ran fine but now ......if it starts ..... it will run rough and then eventually die . It will turn over , carbs are getting fuel , and the coil is showing spark when grounded . I have changed the plugs . One showed black and the others were normal . I also changed the fuel filter(s) . The engine has 400 miles on it since the build . Could it be water in the gas causing this issue ?  Any help would be appreciated .

Thanks,
James

Offline volksnick

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Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2012, 08:49:34 PM »
Air, spark and gas. Needs all three to run. I would eliminated the spark at each plug first to make sure that you are getting spark at the cylinders. Check the points in the distributor since those can close up.  If that doesn't work, then check the carb. It might be bad gas. If it you think it has water in it, replace the gas and try.

I think the godfather once said that 99% of carb problems are electrical, so check the points, set the timing. While you are at it, adjust the valves. A complete tune up should fix it all.

Offline certdubtech

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Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2012, 08:53:09 PM »
You said one plug was black... like dry black (rich fuel) or wet black (oil)?

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2012, 10:54:06 PM »
Whats the last thing you messed with right before it stopped running ?  I'm not being a smart ass with that question. You have to start with the itch which is before before scratch.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2012, 03:35:13 PM by Ret.Bugtech »

Offline ragtopjames

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Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 07:46:53 PM »
Air, spark and gas. Needs all three to run. I would eliminated the spark at each plug first to make sure that you are getting spark at the cylinders. Check the points in the distributor since those can close up.  If that doesn't work, then check the carb. It might be bad gas. If it you think it has water in it, replace the gas and try.

I think the godfather once said that 99% of carb problems are electrical, so check the points, set the timing. While you are at it, adjust the valves. A complete tune up should fix it all.

The distributor is a pointless type .

Offline ragtopjames

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Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 07:47:25 PM »
You said one plug was black... like dry black (rich fuel) or wet black (oil)?



Dry black

Offline ragtopjames

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Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2012, 07:50:21 PM »
Who do you guys recommend to work on this car ? I'm a mechanical person but VW's are new to me .

Offline Got Bug ?

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Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2012, 09:19:37 PM »
Just a guess, but have you checked to verify that your carb float is free to move and not binding ? While you're in the carb look for trash in the needle and seat that would allow the float bowl to overfill. You might also check the float to see if it is heavy and not able to close the needle valve. If there is water in your gas it will be in the bottom of the float bowl when you get in there.
I would expect all four plugs to be gas fouled, not just one, but the rough running could be a symptom of a mixture too rich.
Good luck

Offline ragtopjames

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Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2012, 06:53:43 PM »
Thanks for the advice 39 horses . I will check the floats . That did occur to me that they might be stuck .

Offline Smelly_Cat

Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2012, 06:31:07 PM »
Check that the plug wires in the right cly.  SC

Offline certdubtech

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Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2012, 10:49:21 AM »
One plug is dry/fuel fouled?

I would be guessing something more along the lines of an ignition miss, just building up gas on that cylinder, maybe a bad plug wire, sumthin.  A carb problem would present itself to all four cylinders... they don't discriminate.   ;)

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Offline Ret.Bugtech

Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2012, 12:31:01 PM »
One plug is dry/fuel fouled?

I would be guessing something more along the lines of an ignition miss, just building up gas on that cylinder, maybe a bad plug wire, sumthin.  A carb problem would present itself to all four cylinders... they don't discriminate.   ;)

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I agree.   I don't know how many times I have said that 90% of carb problems are Electrical. Just remember all these post are a calculated guess. We are here and you are there.

Offline Ret.Bugtech

Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2012, 12:56:25 PM »
I must be slipping. You have 2 carbs right ?  Aftermarket I take it seeing how your car had fuel injection originally . Some problems I've had with twin aftermarket carbs was the fact they can have a vacuum leak between the cly.head and the carb base/manifold from poor gaskets(common), just loose to the head, warped base( cupped).  Leaking like that can something cause the problem you are having. If you can keep running long enough ,you can try spraying some WD-40 around the carb  base and see if the idle changes.  I'm not going to tell to use carb spray cleaner. It can be dangerous Let me know

Offline Smelly_Cat

Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2012, 05:12:11 AM »
Bugtech,  what is so dangerous about Carb spray other than it really burns when it gets in my eye and it will ruin you glasses if they have plastic lens.  and it kill roaches and wasps pretty good.  Sc

Offline travisyoung

Re: 1971 Squareback help

« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 09:46:49 AM »
I know some one who had set more than one engine compartment on fire using carb spray to find a vacuum leak when the car backfires or you have a bad spark plug wire arcing to the engine block,  bye bye eyebrows and wiring harness

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